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1 posted on 11/19/2004 11:14:05 AM PST by quidnunc
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Uh, do we give a ....


2 posted on 11/19/2004 11:17:31 AM PST by CAWats
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/2004_County_Results_Final.html

4 posted on 11/19/2004 11:18:49 AM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla (Economic growth through limited government and lower taxes!)
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Are we supposed to care what Europeans think...I believe such thoughts were settled 228 years ago (1776). Still, it is ironic that "Cultured Civilized Europe" comes crying to US when some powder keg blows in its backyard (Bosnia)>...


5 posted on 11/19/2004 11:20:56 AM PST by meandog (qu"Do unto others before they do unto you!")
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The armies of "Old Europe" combined are, I understand, only a small fraction of the US military forces.

When we feel threatened, they can't help us, even if they wanted to.

When they feel threatened, they know we will shed blood to defend them - we've done it for a century now.

So they can afford to throw their tantrums and live in their little bubble.

They ignore the realities of world around them, and they can afford to. Like a college kid living in his parents' basement.

They have not "stepped up to the plate" and taken responsibility for security and democracy.

We have.

I don't care what they think of us.

They should feel only shame . . .


7 posted on 11/19/2004 11:26:05 AM PST by cvq3842
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Let them eat cake...


10 posted on 11/19/2004 11:28:32 AM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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I'm very angry at Europe. But, I think I have a fresh take in that all of these countries that were supposed to be so different after WWII are showing themselves to be just the same nationalistic, socialistic, me-me-me countries they were back in the pre-WWII bad old days. It's a huge disappointment, and I wish it weren't the case. It's like "So This Is How My Grandparents Felt Watching A Major World War Brewing And Nobody Seeming To Be Able To Do A Thing To Stop It." Except for us, and I fear we aren't going to be able to prevent it starting, though I'm damned confident we will FINISH IT.


11 posted on 11/19/2004 11:29:35 AM PST by johnb838 (and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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LOLOL.....didn't know we were supposed to care.

Waiting for the media to take polls here in America to see what we think of France!

13 posted on 11/19/2004 11:32:56 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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The left believes that being hated is evidence that there is something wrong with us, proof that we are bad. If that were true, then Jews, being the most hated people in history must be the most evil people in the world. By that logic the Nazis hatred of the Jews is only further proof of their perfidity.

Morally centered people realize that hatred is more likely indicative of something wrong with the hater than the hated. The hatred of the evil and degenerate of the world is a badge of honor.
14 posted on 11/19/2004 11:36:02 AM PST by Hugin
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Americans are supposed to put European interests ahead of their own? To ask permission before defending themselves? To apologize for being the world's only superpower? Europe is delusional. In the immortal words of that Francophile, John F...king Kerry, "Sit down and shut up."


15 posted on 11/19/2004 11:39:44 AM PST by hershey
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France and Germany I hate them I really and truly hate them.

Nobody gives a crap about me hating them any more than I give a crap about them hating us, I am not Jealous like they are ,I just hate folks who are jealous of the USA and call it hate.


16 posted on 11/19/2004 11:39:54 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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He makes a good point. Outside the US there is no equivalent to the Republican Party. In any typical country, the left party and the right party would both fit comfortably within our Democratic Party.

What passes for "conservatism" in Europe and in Latin America is the traditionalist meaning of the word. So-called "Christian Democrats" are what passes for conservatives, and they are conservative in the sense that they see themselves as culturally western, and tend to be marginally more nationalist than the more left leaning socialists. But Christian Democrats are still socialists. They still favor central control of the economy, and accept most of the presumptions of the welfare state.

As a consequence, there is no basis for understanding there of traditional Americanism. They accept the leftist analysis of who we are without a second thought. If it is so hard for conservatives to get a fair hearing in the press in the US, where they are half the electorate, it should be no surprise that they get no hearing at all outside the US. It should be no surprise then that Europe and the rest of the world consistently misread out motives, and consistently get it wrong.


18 posted on 11/19/2004 11:42:54 AM PST by marron
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There is no National Review or Weekly Standard, no talk radio personalities or Fox News to challenge the liberal orthodoxy.

So, Europeans don't know how to use the internet? Or is it that socialism has so rotted their brains that they don't know how to, nor care to, think for themselves?

20 posted on 11/19/2004 11:45:15 AM PST by browardchad
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A friend just got back from Spain, France and Italy. She came back with horrifying stories of how hated she was when people found out she was from the US.


21 posted on 11/19/2004 11:52:18 AM PST by BunnySlippers (George W. Bush is our president ... Get over it!)
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Liberals like to talk about how the world loved us when Clinton was in charge and how they hate us now. I wish they would realize we were loved like a comedy is "loved". They were laughing at us for those eight years.


22 posted on 11/19/2004 11:52:57 AM PST by HungarianGypsy (We are the pirates who don't do anything....)
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They're jealous, they're really and truly jealous!
24 posted on 11/19/2004 11:56:10 AM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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The citizens and taxpayers of the United States of America owe not one instant of consideration or one penny to the citizens or leaders of European countries. Europe has become the petri dish of the foulest social elements and the most politically reactionary thinking in history. We owe them NOTHING. I have just spent about 1000% more effort and words on them than they have any right to expect from an American.
25 posted on 11/19/2004 11:57:20 AM PST by SMARTY ('Stay together, pay the soldiers, forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus, to his sons)
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"It is important to understand that modern American conservatism has no equivalent in Europe and has never been accepted as legitimate in European intellectual circles"

And the Dems would have it be that way over here.


26 posted on 11/19/2004 12:04:59 PM PST by MarxSux
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Innocence Ignorance Abroad

That's better!!

27 posted on 11/19/2004 12:08:34 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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A great way to judge somebody's character is by the friends they keep, but an even better way might be by the enemies they have. With that in mind, and considering Europe has historically been on the wrong side of the fence, it's comforting to know they don't support us. That let's me know we're doing the right thing!
28 posted on 11/19/2004 12:18:00 PM PST by ConservativeAgenda (Don't rely upon others to stand up for what you believe is right!)
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U.S. is conducting the war on terrorism in order to control Mideast oil and dominate the world."

Dominate the world? Huh? Most of the world is undeveloped, poorly run, illiterate, and brimming with corruption. Why would we want to own it?

29 posted on 11/19/2004 12:33:16 PM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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