The Generals Speak

Rolling Stone ^ | November 25, 2004 | Paul Alexander

[Former Military Chick]

I am not sure where to begin but I will start with the obvious. This came from the Rolling Stone and the Generals differ from our current administrations.

Sometimes I really do hate free speech, but, it does give thought to the cloning issue. One of these type of folks is all the world needs.

[madvlad]

I love how an AF general comments on occupation.
Maybe he really wanted to be an Army guy.

MV

[Conspiracy Guy]

Washed up Generals are as useless as washed up Football Coaches. Who cares what they think about a War or a Football Game?

[SwinusMaximus]

Bah! I had to stop reading at Stansfield Turner, one of the buttwipes most responsible for the state the CIA is in today. The man is an insufferable idiot and the fact that he was put there by Jimmy Carter ought to tell you all you need to know.

[Maynerd]

They all share a common lowest denominator. They despise Bush and Rumsfeld and were gunning for a post in the Kerry Adminstration.

[edfrank_1998]

found at: http://www.politicsus.com/011304jk.htm

Governor Shaheen and General Claudia Kennedy Energize
“Women’s Voices on the Trail”


MANCHESTER, NH – Former Governor Jeanne Shaheen and Lt. General Claudia Kennedy (Ret.), the highest ranking woman in the U.S. Army, urged the women of New Hampshire to help send John Kerry to the White House.

SNIP

[rlmorel]

I agree. Look at the publication, and look at who they interviewed.

This is the same publication that does oral sex on any liberal candidate.

The opinions of these people counts for less that our opinions on this board. At least we can't claim to have an axe to grind with the people we disagree with, which is more than you can say for any one of these armchair generals.

Tommy Franks, who has more to complain about than ANY one of these people, doesn't. HE is the one who had to make do with what he was given.

There has never, ever been a military campaign where the miliary has been given every single resource it wanted. You always push for as much as you can get, and make do with what you are given, this applies all the way down to the grunt in the field, I'm sure.

[edfrank_1998]

found at: http://www.stopdubya.com/Individual%20Archives/whistleblowers/WilliamOdem.htm

"Well, the president set forth three war aims as I remember. One was to get rid of WMD there, the second was to overthrow the Saddam regime and third was to create a constitutional democracy which is pro-America. The first two, can be considered either irrelevant or accomplished and the last one is the issue. And there's not going to be a constitutional regime that's pro-American anytime soon, I don't think in several decades." - Newshour, 5/10/04

Bush should "eat a little humble pie"

William E. Odom, the head of the National Security Agency during the Reagan administration, says that President Bush should "eat a little humble pie," admit the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, and seek U.N. forces to take over for U.S. troops. Odom, who opposed the war before it began, argues that Iraq will never become a liberal democracy. He also warns that "we've also nearly broken the U.S. Army by over-extension and over-commitment."

A retired three-star general who is now a senior fellow and the director of national securities studies at the Hudson Institute, Odom says that President Bush, "no matter if he's re-elected or not, will regret it" if he doesn't withdraw troops quickly. He also says he does not believe Democrat John Kerry can win the presidential election if he does not call for an early pullout.

Odom was interviewed by Bernard Gwertzman, consulting editor for cfr.org, on May 6, 2004.

CFR Interview

SNIP OF INTERVIEW

[italianquaker]

Pathetic bad mouth the president just to get a job well Burger King security is accepting applications
w2004
we wonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
ciao

[edfrank_1998]

found at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5113717/

Zinni for vice president?

Some Washington insiders applaud idea
of Kerry picking retired Marine general
Retired Gen. Anthony Zinni is a harsh critic of the Bush administration's Iraq policy.

WASHINGTON - He's not yet in the top ranks of contenders in speculation about Sen. John Kerry’s vice presidential pick, but retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni is very much a favorite of some Washington insiders.

SNIP

[IGOTMINE]

Everyone one of these flag officers is a well known donkey hack.

[highlandbreeze]

And this particular AF general is hated among the ranks in the AF.

[Monterrosa-24]

But the great Claudia Kennedy has spoken !!! That affirmative action incompetent is still pretending to be knowledgeable of the military. She says Rumsfeld should not have offered any advice. But one can give advice without giving orders and one can give orders without micromanaging.

[OldFriend]

Paul Alexander did a bio on Kerry so of course he's bitter. He also did a bio on McCain assuming he'd be the presidential candidate last time around.

If he thinks the loss of hundreds of thousands of civilian lives in Southeast Asia is nothing worth while, then he's one sick ba$tard.

[msnimje]

McPeak has McPeaked

[Perdogg]

There were rumors in the late 1990s that Clinton wanted to tap Lt.Gen. Kennedy, er, for the job at the DIA, but Senate republicans said don't even do it.

[pierrem15]

This was the most frightening line in the whole piece:

Lt. Gen. Claudia Kennedy, Army deputy chief of staff for intelligence, 1997-2000

She admits that the Army gives inadequate combat training to support troops, and then blames Rumsfeld.

[mrsmith]

It's just shameful that Aaron Brown hasn't given Wesley Clark the sidekick position on his show yet.

Wesley worships the ground Aaron, or any employer, walks on. No one could possibly suck up to Aaron like Wesley has proven he will- to anybody, but especially to his Aaron.

Wesley should never have gotten messed up with people so much tougher and more manly than him, like Aaron.

[Buckeye McFrog]

long list of disaffected Clinton and Carter administration people...not worth the paper it was printed on.

[HiJinx]

one can give orders without micromanaging.

Not if you're Claudia Kennedy...