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Conservatives' Challenge to Specter Reaps Rewards
National Review ^ | 11/18/04 | Compilation

Posted on 11/18/2004 8:14:45 PM PST by dangus

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1 posted on 11/18/2004 8:14:45 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Keep Spector's feet to the fire...


2 posted on 11/18/2004 8:15:27 PM PST by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: dangus
"And I sincerely hope that we will not have only learned from the mistakes of the past when it comes to obstruction of the President’s judicial nominees, but we will conduct ourselves with the kind of dignity that the American people have come to expert from United States Senators"

Translation: "Daschle's gone, now knock off the crap."

3 posted on 11/18/2004 8:21:44 PM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: vrwcagent0498

Ha. He will block and they will let him get away with it, except for Supreme Court... apparently


4 posted on 11/18/2004 8:21:54 PM PST by GeronL (http://images7.fotki.com/v125/photos/2/215708/780411/reow-vi.jpg?1100155138)
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To: dangus

Specter should be aware he has a noose constantly hanging over his head and, if necessary, conservatives will not be afraid to use it.


5 posted on 11/18/2004 8:22:05 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: dangus

Sorry, I'm not persuaded yet. And I continue to hold Bush and Rove responsible.

This is the same clubby senate that agreed unanimously that at clinton's impeachment trial no one would be allowed to present any evidence. Some trial. They all took solemn oaths to try clinton fairly, and they all broke their oaths immediately.

They are losers. If they expect to gain more senate seats in 2006, they had better wake up pretty quick. Otherwise 2004 will be seen as high tide for the conservative movement.


6 posted on 11/18/2004 8:22:21 PM PST by Cicero (Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
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This is Specter's chance. We have to keep him on a very short lease. If he even steps out of line a little bit we should can him.


7 posted on 11/18/2004 8:23:36 PM PST by RKB-AFG ("Thank you to the architect, Karl Rove" GWB)
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I'll be tense, but this might be good for the institution of the Senate:
It also looks like the Republicans will not insert the "nuclear option" into the Senate Rules at the start of the session, but rather make clear that they consider filibustering nominations to be illegitimate, and serve notice to the Democrats that they will have no trouble going nuclear should the Democrats force the issue. "But you wouldn't want us to have to do that, would you?"

Doing it pre-emptively makes the Republicans seem beligerent. Waiting until a filibuster, on the other hand, would put Democrats on record as still obstructing the Senate. BUt I'd sorta like to see it settled before the ground situation has a chance to change: we could lose ground in the midterms; character assassination could provide cover for "moderates," etc.

Nelson (D-NE), up in 2006, is as good as a Republican, by the way, so start with a base of 56 votes for going nuclear. Landrieu (D-LA) or Lincoln (D-AR), both up in 2008, might also be squeamish about voting against going nuclear.


8 posted on 11/18/2004 8:24:03 PM PST by dangus
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To: RKB-AFG
If he even steps out of line a little bit we should can him.

But he can't be canned. He is effectively a lame duck (he would be over 80 in 6 years). This was the Pubbies chance to can him. They dropped the ball, circled the wagons, and protected 'one of their own.'

9 posted on 11/18/2004 8:28:46 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (FreeMartha)
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To: dangus
I agree with Noonan. She is quite astute and I trust her instincts.
10 posted on 11/18/2004 8:29:17 PM PST by Clump
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To: Cicero

I hate to put it this way, but we will not see any conservatives wield power in the Senate until we reach about 60 votes. Moderates Republicans wield power because they can get moderate Democrats to allow bills through. Conservatives have to say, "Yes, sir. Can I pick up your soap?"

63 would be nice. THen we could lose Specter, Chafee, Snowe and Collins, and still (with Nelson) get bills passed. But withholding money from "safe" moderates (Voinovich, Stevens, Murkowski, McCain, Dole, Grassley, Hatch, Hagel and probably a few others), and supporting primary opponents, and giving to conservative candidates rather than the party gets us heard. Losing seats is counter-productive; giving purse strings to conservatives is good.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 8:32:28 PM PST by dangus
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Why do 99 US Senators allow a traitor in their midst?


12 posted on 11/18/2004 8:33:51 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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But there's a lot of force being shown lately, and sometimes it's conservative to step back, to hold your fire, to wait.

Good advice! You don't want to be so snitty that you're ignored later when it might count even more than this battle.

13 posted on 11/18/2004 8:37:56 PM PST by SuziQ (W STILL the President)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

>>Why do 99 US Senators allow a traitor in their midst?<<

Because there are 48 traitors in their midst.


14 posted on 11/18/2004 8:38:27 PM PST by dangus
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Kerry has been defeated, the public has spoken, his treacherous act has cost him the Presidency, time to give it a rest man. There is more important things to worry about right such as advancing the conservative agenda under the Bush administration. It is just not prudent to always harp on yesterday's news.


15 posted on 11/18/2004 8:40:22 PM PST by Ksnavely
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Your reading this wrong my friend, what they are saying is its his seat by tradition and they will respect both the tradition and the people of PA who reelected him to office again, The Big But is he's on notice and He's not to play any games. Remember He still needs support to get anything done, the Senate's not a One Man Army, If you were to look at it as a chess game he's been checked and a wrong move will signal a check mate.


16 posted on 11/18/2004 8:43:33 PM PST by KingNo155
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As one former president said, "There they go again". They have an increased majority in the senate, they have an increased majority in the House, and they retained the Executive branch. So what are they doing? They're rolling over and playing dead as if they lost and allowing the howling demonicrats to get their man, Specter, yes I know he's a, a, ahem, a, a, republican (RINO), but he's a Jack Ass in a gray suit as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Why do I bother voting for them thinking they will grow testicles and become men and stand up to girlie men liberals? It's the same song every year, just a different verse. I'm getting sick and tire of Spineless conservative who are all talk and no balls.


17 posted on 11/18/2004 8:45:14 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Ksnavely

"Kerry has been defeated, the public has spoken, his treacherous act has cost him the Presidency,

time to give it a rest man.

There is more important things to worry about right such as advancing the conservative agenda under the Bush administration. It is just not prudent to always harp on yesterday's news."

What don't you understand?

You just don't get it and want to "move along"

Hanoi Kerry STILL is in the US Senate.

Why?

That is today's news.




18 posted on 11/18/2004 8:45:28 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: dangus

Not Lincoln...she was just re-elected - she won't be up until 2010.


19 posted on 11/18/2004 8:46:35 PM PST by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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To: dangus

Sorry....

I'm not pursuaded buy Specter's new come-to-Jesus attitude; and moreover, Saxby Chambliss has lost my vote next time he's up and Frist will get my active opposition anytime a vote for him is possible.

Business-as-usual and good-ole-boy accomodation is simply unacceptable in light of the threats we face and the short time we have left to set this Nation on the right path.


20 posted on 11/18/2004 8:47:49 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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