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Phishing Feeds Internet Black Markets (fake Internet sites take your personal info, bankruptcy)
Wash Post ^ | 11/18/04 | Brian Krebs

Posted on 11/18/2004 11:35:29 AM PST by Cableguy

William Jackson never thought he would be grateful for going bankrupt.

Nine months ago, the 44-year-old resident of Katy, Texas, got an e-mail message from what appeared to be eBay's PayPal online payment division. It warned him that his account would be suspended unless he updated it with his personal financial data. The e-mail directed Jackson to a Web site that looked like PayPal's. He keyed in his checking, credit card, bank routing and Social Security numbers, his birthday, his mother's maiden name and the personal identification number for his bank card.

The Web site was a fake. Within a week, the people who created it used Jackson's data to steal $200 from his PayPal account and run up $1,000 in credit card charges.

Jackson cleared up the problem with his bank after two months, and a short while later the activity ceased. But late this summer, his car insurance company sent him a letter rejecting an application for a $30,000 car loan that he never requested.

The only thing that stopped this latest attempt to use Jackson's identity was the 1997 bankruptcy filing that he and his wife made after the military base where he was stationed closed and his civilian job left them with a hefty pay cut in the face of mounting debt.

"Basically every piece of personal data about me had been compromised," Jackson said. "It's pretty simple to get another credit card number and [e-mail] address and switch banks, but what do you do when these guys know the stuff that doesn't change?"

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: internet; paypal; phishing; web
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To: mlbford2
He deserves what he got. Dumbasses get no sympathy from me.

That's what crooks always say.

41 posted on 11/18/2004 12:54:41 PM PST by Romulus
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To: garyhope

I keep getting e-mails promising me more size in the bedroom. I'm intrigued, because right now there's just enough room for the bed and the nightstands.


42 posted on 11/18/2004 12:55:26 PM PST by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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To: John Lenin; MineralMan

No, he's smart.


43 posted on 11/18/2004 12:55:38 PM PST by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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To: Xenalyte

ROFLMAO. Good one. Thanks.


44 posted on 11/18/2004 12:58:54 PM PST by garyhope
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To: MineralMan; John Lenin
I get e-mails from Paypal and eBay all the time warning me about scams and spoofs. I also get e-mails that are clearly scams and spoofs.

The only way I could fall victim to a scam/spoof is to a) ignore every e-mail eBay and Paypal send me, yet b) open spoof e-mails that appear to be from eBay and Paypal.

Not bloody likely, since I am a woman of sense.
45 posted on 11/18/2004 12:59:33 PM PST by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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To: Cableguy
I regularly get these phishing trips spoofed from Wells Fargo, Citibank, Smith Barney, Sun Trust Bank (?!), etc. What upsets me is that when I contact the real institution to report these attempts at identity theft, the institution doesn't give a damn. (But I do have a nice collection of "yawns" from them.)

from the article:   "Basically every piece of personal data about me had been compromised,"

No dummy, you compromised them all by yourself, by being exceedingly stupid.

--Boot Hill

46 posted on 11/18/2004 1:04:49 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: RightWingFreedomFighter

I received a supposed ebay email about 2 weeks ago. It didn't look right & I forward the e-mail directily to the ebay spoof site. It wasn't from them so the crooks didn't get any personal info from me.


47 posted on 11/18/2004 1:06:07 PM PST by jrcats
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To: RightWingFreedomFighter

I got the eBay spoof message too. The way I caught it first was when I moused over the link that said "https://ebay.xxxxxx" I noticed at the bottom of my browser was showing a strange URL in the UK. I viewed the HTML source and sure enough, all the links were not what they appeared to be. I didn't reply and I forwarded it to eBay.


48 posted on 11/18/2004 1:11:09 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Xenalyte

With some of those emails all you had to do was open them and an actice x component gave the perps a back door to your PC. Don't be stupid, sticking up for criminals by calling the victims idiots is so, so, liberal!


49 posted on 11/18/2004 1:36:48 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
That would be why I don't open them. That's what Web-based no-script e-mail is for.

I'm not sticking up for criminals. I am mocking the willfully ignorant. Everyone on the Internet - every single person - has received and heard multiple warnings about spoofing. One cannot avoid the warnings.
50 posted on 11/18/2004 1:41:05 PM PST by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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To: John Lenin

I also believe that scantily clad women might, just might, be asking for it. Personal responsibility is paramount in my credo.


51 posted on 11/18/2004 1:41:52 PM PST by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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To: John Lenin

"With some of those emails all you had to do was open them and an actice x component gave the perps a back door to your PC. Don't be stupid, sticking up for criminals by calling the victims idiots is so, so, liberal!"

You mean Active-X? Actually, you should have your copy of Internet Exploder set to not run any Active-X components, and you should have a virus-scanning program examining your email before you have a chance to open it.

You could also use a mail service like Yahoo, which automatically scans your email for you.

Or, I suppose, you could refuse to open any email at all. That would be a sure way to avoid problems. Just don't deal with email.

Most of us, however, must deal with email on a daily basis. It's easy enough to protect yourself, but not clicking on links in email is the easiest thing in the world to do. As long as you make it a habit, you won't ever do it.

Another good habit is to turn off the display of all HTML graphics in your mail reader. That will help, too.

Instead of getting angry at the people giving good advice about email, try getting angry at the ones sending it to you. You're mad at the wrong people.


52 posted on 11/18/2004 1:42:46 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: holymoly
I did NOT post this twice.

Sounds like you have the infamous Mozilla Double-Post virus. Get a Mac.

53 posted on 11/18/2004 1:49:27 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort (Falcons - the Red States Team)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Sounds like you have the infamous Mozilla Double-Post virus. Get a Mac.

Nope. At the time, I was on my old "back up" system using "Off By One".
54 posted on 11/18/2004 1:53:31 PM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: MineralMan
Most of us, however, must deal with email on a daily basis. It's easy enough to protect yourself, but not clicking on links in email is the easiest thing in the world to do. As long as you make it a habit, you won't ever do it.

Generally good advice. I'll note that it's very unlikely that you would get infected following the links included in a phishing scam. Directing you to a site that might trigger an AV or malware warning would be counterproductive to their purpose.

55 posted on 11/18/2004 1:54:46 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MineralMan
Or, I suppose, you could refuse to open any email at all

That's exactly what I did after I heard about the E Bay scam. Plus, I use an email program that doesn't allow active-x and it allows me to block images in emails. I'm talking about the little old ladies and old men who don't have a clue about how many virus's and trojans are spread through emails. I have had to wipe hard drives of family members who had their computers taken over by trojans and viruses, that's why I'm a little upset about calling people idiots.
56 posted on 11/18/2004 1:56:06 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

"I have had to wipe hard drives of family members who had their computers taken over by trojans and viruses, that's why I'm a little upset about calling people idiots."

As have I. I follow that up by installing software which protects them, and take them off AOL forever. I then give lessons in how not to be attacked by these phishers, etc.

All my family members now follow the simple rules that keep them from being attacked.

Idiots are those who will or can not learn. Are you teaching your family? Have you set them up on safe mail readers? If not, why not?


57 posted on 11/18/2004 1:58:27 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

I sure do, I tell them to dump Outlook and use Eudora or Incredimail.


58 posted on 11/18/2004 2:02:17 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

"I sure do, I tell them to dump Outlook and use Eudora or Incredimail."

Don't just tell them; install them and uninstall AOL. For Pete's sake, it's not enough for older folks just to tell them to do something. You have to help them do it.

Otherwise, they'll just go on harming their computers. Why? They don't understand, and they don't want to understand. They just want to email their friends and maybe buy some stuff on eBay.

Just help them do what they want safely. I have parents who are both 80. My wife's parents are 84 and 75. I would not dream of not doing whatever was necessary to help them compute safely.

When they have a question about a piece of email, they call me. Every time. So, no viruses for them. No malware, because it gets blocked. Nothing. They email people and buy stuff on eBay. That's about it.


59 posted on 11/18/2004 2:05:40 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: John Lenin

Are all Active X controls bad? I just downloaded one from MS for my MSN Money forum for the stock charts.


60 posted on 11/18/2004 2:11:08 PM PST by garyhope
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