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To: mattdono
Frankly, they don't deserve it.

Which is exactly why a really strong Christian like the President, led by a merciful God, IS nice to them.

I truly believe that the President revealed a depth of character and faith today that goes far beyond politics.

Human instinct tells you to punch the creep in the gut, but the Spirit-filled man doesn't do it.

1,514 posted on 11/18/2004 7:31:12 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: ohioWfan

I agree. President Bush lives his Christianity and showed his class and compassion in his speech today.

I have no plans to go to the Clinton LIEbrary to see how X42 has rewritten history......but I'd make a trip to Little Rock to see the Counter Clinton Libray:

http://www.counterclintonlibrary.com/


1,515 posted on 11/18/2004 8:38:57 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (We Love Ya....Dubya and Laura !)
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To: ohioWfan
Then can call me a sinner for my (and some of the other's) comments.

Though, I don't think that me saying the President should have been more bland/mundane in his comments was calling for a "gut shot".

And, I am very familiar with loving the sinner. But, as I recall, forgiveness is ALWAYS based on repentence. Bill Clinton has never even implied that he was sorry for what he had done. In fact, to the contrary, his "because I could" explanation shows how truly depraved this man is.

As we all know, the President is a Christian and a good man. No dispute. The President is a man of character. He has shown that many times.

But, and this is the last time I'm going to say this, the President simply did not have to be that glowing in his remarks.

He could have been classy, he could have shown his character, and he could have shown how Christian a man he is-- he could have done all of that without the actually saying some of the things that he said.

These people showed how ungrateful they really are when less than an hour after the President's remarks, Klintoon was out slamming the President. Now, it didn't take this incident to show me how low these people are. Alas, we all have known this for a very long time. Which is why, I think, that the President's remarks were so hard to believe.

Now, did Klintoon show himself (again) for the ungrateful bastard that he is? Yes. Of course. But, we didn't need another episode to know this.

Look this issue is over. I have made my point clear. You have made yours. There is one last thing I want to say (and OhioWfan, this next comment is a more general comment, not necessarily directed at you)...

This thread was laced with a lot of BS insinuations about fellow FREEPERs. We are supposed to be having good quality discussions. Sometimes these discussion get heated (sometimes, overheated). We all need to hash this crap out in a semi-civil tone.

When you don't agree with someone, you don't start calling people names and saying that they are democrats or Kerry supporters. That's cheap and it's a very poor way of making a point.

And, while I realize that we have way too many trolls who join to do nothing but cause problems (Lord knows, I like a good ZOT-fest like anyone), you really need to look at the FREEPER's comments "In Forum" before you start lodging those cheap accussations. If you want to know about me, you are welcome to look at my comments in the forum. You will learn a lot about how I am and what I'm all about.

And worse, before you start running to the mods by using the "Report Abuse", when all there really is, is some comments that you don't agree with. As I do, when I suspect someone is a troll, I look at their profile to see when they joined and then I look at their "In Forum" comments. If there comments are consistently troll-like, then, by all means, report them. But, if you don't like someone's comments and you look at their comment history and it is solid conservative, non troll-like comments, you need to refrain from running to the mods.

It happened on this thread and a newer, but very solid FREEPER's account was suspended. That's wrong. We can disagree, but we don't have to be disagreeable. And, I know that the discussion got heated and some things were said that was fuel on the fire. But, we certainly don't need to run to the mods, complaining about someone without due cause. And, if you are going to report abuse and ask for a FREEPER to be suspended or banned, then you should at least look at someone's history of comments, not just one or a few comments on 1 particular thread.

Anyway, I respect all of you all's opinions even if I disagree with them. Funny thing, talk radio this morning was rehashing all of the different perspectives that we ran through yesterday. So, in that regard, we are all 12 hours ahead of the game, which is kind of nice.

FRegards to all....

1,529 posted on 11/19/2004 5:41:46 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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