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Finger-pointing moonbat alert!
1 posted on 11/18/2004 12:11:43 AM PST by claudwitz
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To the Russian Interfax and ITAR-Tass news agencies, Putin, in today's meeting with the general staff officials reported that they are continuing to work on the new rocket and added it will be revealed, "in the near future."

Choose your enemies wisely Mr. Putin, for if the USA is one of them, your rocket will become fodder to "Luke Skywalker" if an attempt to use them against us is forwarded.

2 posted on 11/18/2004 12:16:51 AM PST by EGPWS
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WHAT YOU SAY!!
3 posted on 11/18/2004 12:17:13 AM PST by RichInOC (MOVE 'ZIG'. FOR GREAT JUSTICE.)
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Not good.


5 posted on 11/18/2004 12:26:58 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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I think this is the missile that can orbit the earth so it can approach a target from any direction and thereby avoid missile defense systems. It really doesn't change the strategic balance because our missile defense systems can't stop an attack by numerous ICBMs launched simultaneously.


6 posted on 11/18/2004 12:31:55 AM PST by carl in alaska (Once a Chargers fan, always a Chargers fan....)
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Yes, Putin is our friend...


7 posted on 11/18/2004 12:33:07 AM PST by CWOJackson
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Maybe they finally perfected the Red Mercury nuke!


9 posted on 11/18/2004 12:40:06 AM PST by jaykay
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that Russia is developing a unique nuclear device "which other nuclear powers do not and will not possess."


Too late, Vlad. Japan's got ya beat.
10 posted on 11/18/2004 12:40:38 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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Russia is a second rate power;
We crushed the "Evil Empire;"
The Russian mafia is stealing the stuff critical to the creation of nuclear briefcases - we need to buy the stuff from Russia to prevent it from getting into terrorist hands;
Russia is unable to control and protect its nuclear arsenal;
The Russian military is about to revolt from the lack of food, clothing and no paychecks.

.....but wait.....

Money Russians have been getting from American taxpayers for all of the above reasons has been put to good use!!!

Russia is on the verge of displaying a nuclear device paid for with American money that ....no one has (that's US), and no one (that's US) will ever have....!!!

Do you suppose the device will wave a banner:

"Thank You, Stupid American Taxpayers!!!

11 posted on 11/18/2004 1:02:02 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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One has to ask why they're telling the world about it. There is apparently more value in letting the world know than keeping it a secret.

There are two contenders for why that might be: 1) A deterrent against other countries (probably the US, but maybe China) where they otherwise feel vulnerable, or 2) they're looking to sell it to raise cash.

HF


15 posted on 11/18/2004 3:53:07 AM PST by holden (holden awnuhnuh truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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Some years back, a high level KGB defector named Golitsyn published a book saying that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a strategic deception. The goal was to cause us to cease regarding them as a threat. This would enable them to surpass us militarily.

He was regarded as a crank at the time.

This news makes his analysis seem increasingly credible.
17 posted on 11/18/2004 3:58:58 AM PST by denikin
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someone set us up the bomb!!!


19 posted on 11/18/2004 4:12:53 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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Putin Promises New Breed Of Nuclear Missile
 

17 November 2004 -- President Vladimir Putin said today that Russia is developing a new form of nuclear missile unlike that of any other country and unlikely to be matched by others.

The White House reacted calmly today to Putin's statement, saying it was not news to the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush.

Putin said he expects the missile to be in service in the next few years, but he gave no further details.

"We will continue to persist in consistently building up the armed forces, in general, including its nuclear component. We are not only doing research and successful testing of new nuclear missile-systems technologies," Putin told his armed-forces chiefs in Moscow today. "I am sure that, in the near future, these weapons will appear -- systems that other nuclear powers do not and will not possess."

Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said earlier this month that Russia expected to test-fire a mobile version of its Topol-M ballistic missile this year and that production of the new weapon could be commissioned in 2005.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said U.S. President Bush and Putin had discussed the issue previously. McClellan noted U.S.-Russian agreements in place to reduce the two countries' nuclear arsenals and Washington's view of Moscow as a crucial partner in the antiterror battle.

"This is not something we look at as new," McClellan said. "We are very well aware of their longstanding modernization efforts for their military. I might point out that we have a very good relationship with Russia. The President and President Putin have worked very closely together to establish that relationship, and they have worked together to move beyond some of the issues of the past and developed an agreement to significantly reduce our nuclear arsenals."

McClellan suggested that close ties between Bush and Putin render alarm unnecessary -- but don't eliminate Washington's concern.

(AFP/AP/Reuters) http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2004/russia-041117-rferl02.htm

RT-2UTTH - Topol-M
SS-27

The single-warhead RT-2UTTH Topol-M is an advanced version of the silo-based and mobile Topol intercontinental ballistic missile. While the SS-25 Topol is generally similar to the American Minuteman-2, the more sophisticated SS-27 Topol-M is comparable to the American Minuteman-3. The Topol-M is 22.7 meters (75 feet) long and has a diameter of 1.95 meters (6 feet 3 inches). The missile weighs 47.2 metric tons and has a range of 11,000 kilometers (6,900 miles). The solid-propellant three-stage Topol-M missile complex, with a standardized (silo and mobile) missile, is to become the foundation of the Russian strategic nuclear forces in the 21st century. It is planned to accommodate Topol-M both on self-propelled launchers as well as in silos. High survivability of the mobile complex is achieved by the capability of off-road movement, comprising of continuous change in location and of a missile launch from any point along the movement route.

The Moscow Institute of Heat Engineering (MIT) State Enterprise is the only plant in Russia building these missiles today. The modernized 45-ton Topol-M is the first strategic missile to be built by Russia without the participation of Ukraine or other CIS countries. The first test firing of a Topol-M took place on December 20, 1994. The flight and design testing of the Topol-M was successfully completed by 1995, and joint flight-testing is continuing, leading to a decision to commence series production. All the launches have been successful, but large-scale serial production has not started due the acute capital shortfalls experienced by the Russian government. In July 1997 the fourth launch successful of a Topol-M ICBM was made from the Strategic Missile Forces' Plesetsk State Test Site. By September 1999 the eighth test of the Topol-M missile had been taken place. The missile was launched from Plesetsk, north of Moscow, and landed at the Kura testing site on Kamchatka. On February 10th 2000, Russia successfully completed the tenth test flight of the Topol-M. The missile was launched from the Plesetsk cosmodrome to a target to a military base in Kura on the Kamchatka peninsula in the Russian Far East approximately 8,000 kilometers away. In September of 2000, Russia test-fired another Topol-M rocket. The SS-27 was fired from Plesetsk Arctic base in northern Russia to its target in the Russian Far East approximately 4,000 km away. In this 12th test, the missile was fired from a mobile launcher, rather than from a silo.

As previously stated, the state of the Russian economic has had serious effects on Russian military expenditures. As a result, work on the new Topol-M ICBM is lagging seriously behind its initial timetable. Russian defense financing has reportedly provided that some 250-300 Topol-M missiles would be in service by 2003. A total of 1.5 trillion rubles (at that time the exchange rate approximately 6000 rubles to the dollar) were included in the 1997 budget for the development of the Topol-M missile complexes. Under START II Russian Missile Troops are permitted to have 300 Topol RS-12M mobile missiles and the RVSN may acquire two Topol-M regiments annually up to 2001, which will cost 3.7 billion new rubles. The Strategic Missile Force plans to deploy mobile Topol-M missile systems at the end of 2002 or early in 2003. A total of R700 billion would be required to place 450 Topol-M missiles in service by 2005 to maintain parity under START II. But the present 55 percent funding will only permit production of, at the most, 10-15 missiles at this facility each year. As a result, Strategic Missile Troops will likely only have approximately 350-400 ICBM warheads, not the 800-900 which are permited within the framework of the START II Treaty. On 15 April 1998 Acting Prime Minister Sergey Kiriyenko approved a schedule of monthly budget appropriations for the Topol-M, which he noted would make up the core of Russia's strategic nuclear forces.

In December 1997 after four test launches, the first two Topol-M systems were put on a trial alert with the Tatischevo Taman Division in the Saratov region. By late July 1998 two more Topol-M launch sites had been completed and were awaiting acceptance trials. Russia put a regiment of 10 Topol-M missiles on duty in 1998 by which the Strategic Rocket Forces had carried out 6 successful test launches. A second regiment of another 10 missiles entered service in December 1999. A third regiment, of 10 Topol-M missiles was deployed in 2000. On October 2002 strategic missile troops also fired an SS-27 land-based missile from the Plesetsk training launch site. That missile landed at the Kamchatka impact range.

The Topol-M missile system is still being commissioned in the Russian strategic nuclear forces' grouping regardless of whether heavy missiles stand down from combat alert duty or not. The Topol-M ICBM grouping is intended to will comprise an equal number of mobile and silo-launched missiles. Some 90 of the 360 launch silos vacated by the RS-20 ICBM's, which will stand down from combat alert, need to be converted for the Topol-M. Apart from Saratov Oblast the Topol-M systems will be deployed in Valday, the southern Urals, and the Altay.

The START II ratified by the Russian Duma in September 2000, calls for Russia to replace its MIRV SS-18 missiles with single warhead, Topol-M type, missiles. Although deployed with a single warhead, the Topol-M could easily be converted into a multiple-warhead missile, which is prohibited within the framework of START II. Based on its throw weight, the Topol-M missiles could be transformed into missiles with multiple reentry vehicles [MIRV's] carrying between 3-6 missiles. The warheads could be taken from some of those ground-based and naval missiles which will be withdrawn from the order of battle in coming years. The Topol-M can carry a maneuverable warhead, which was tested in the summer of 1998. Topol-M also has a shorter engine-burn time, to minimize satellite detection on launch.

Russia deployed the first batch of ten Topol-Ms in December 1998 and deployed 20 other missiles in two batches over the next two years. Due to funding constraints the fourth batch of Topol-Ms were not deployed until 21 December 2003 when ten more missiles were commissioned Tatishchevo missile base in the central Saratov region.

In November 2004 Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said that Russia expected to test-fire a mobile version of its Topol-M ballistic missile in 2004, with production of the new weapon to be commissioned in 2005.


23 posted on 11/18/2004 5:02:20 AM PST by Rain-maker
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Oh thanks, Russia.

Putting the old USSR back together again will become about as easy as a 4-year-old's picture puzzle.

24 posted on 11/18/2004 5:14:06 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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They are worried about us when Chechyn nut cases are hijacking schools amd theater, and blowing up subways and commercial planes?


25 posted on 11/18/2004 5:18:16 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids (.)
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Putin has a big mouth. I think he's a paper tiger. That's no reason for us not to arm to the hilt, but the Russians have been known to puff before.


26 posted on 11/18/2004 5:29:55 AM PST by magdalena
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Putin has a big mouth. I think he's a paper tiger. That's no reason for us not to arm to the hilt, but the Russians have been known to puff before.


27 posted on 11/18/2004 5:31:28 AM PST by magdalena
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He is sorta short...perhaps he compensating?


28 posted on 11/18/2004 5:50:30 AM PST by smith288 (I have posted over 10,000 times. The more I post, the more intelligent you become!)
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that Russia is developing a unique nuclear device "which other nuclear powers do not and will not possess."

Because we wouldn't want to possess it?
29 posted on 11/18/2004 6:19:20 AM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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Is this the same country that cannot even manufacture windshields that fit their airplanes? Is this the same country that cannot afford toilet seats in their Moscow airport? Is this the same country that 75% of the people do not have running water?

Ya I'm scared.
34 posted on 11/18/2004 6:46:58 AM PST by crosslink
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I think the Russians are bluffing. They want us to believe that they are working on such powerful and advanced nuclear missile so we will fear them again and so we consider them a superpower.

Remember that in the 1980’s Reagan SDI commonly known as Star Wars was mostly a theoretical project but it has profound effect on ending the soviet union. The Russians think that they can use the same strategy here so we can view them again a superpower.

41 posted on 11/18/2004 7:07:10 AM PST by jveritas
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