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Nice to hear from you nwctwx. Good luck on your exam. I'm sure you'll pass with flying colors!
Have a great trip DC. Be safe. We'll see you when you return.
West Virginia homes evacuated after natural gas explosion
Wednesday December 08, 2004
http://cbsnewyork.com/national/BRF--AutoShopExplosio-aa/resources_news_html
>> When can we come for a visit? <<
>> It sounds wonderful! <<
LOL! Fellow TMers are ALWAYS welcome at my place!
It really is wonderful. I'd almost forgotten how nice country folk are. Too long in the city I guess.
Good luck with your exams and remember to get some sleep.
This was on the news ABC Radio, I can't open CNN, it will crash me, and I have stuff on that I don't want to loose.
Is this more of the Dead or misssing scientists?
Hope it isn't already reported.
There's a thread going...not much info as of yet.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1297048/posts
Reports of fog. Could have been a contributing factor to the crash. Hope it nothing more sinister. Prayers to the victim's families.
Investigators say they still don't know what gashed two holes-one more than six feet long and the other more than two feet long-- in the bottom of the ship. Link to Article
The single-hull tanker was being pushed by tugboats toward the refinery when the pipe tore two gashes in its hull, authorities said. One of the rips was six feet long.
..."divers on Sunday found the 15-foot, U-shaped pipe, half-buried in mud. Investigators found fresh gouges on it, and paint scrapings that matched samples taken from the ship's hull."
The pipe, believed to be made of cast iron, protruded about three feet from the river bottom and was found about 700 feet from the Citgo Petroleum Corp. refinery in Paulsboro, N.J. The Athos I was heading there when it listed to one side and began gushing oil after an uneventful, weeklong trip from Venezuela.
He said the pipe measured three-feet by four-feet wide and had two broken brackets on it, as if it had been torn from its original location.
The Army Corps of Engineers, which is responsible for keeping the area free of silt and dangerous objects, surveys the anchorage twice a year to make sure the water is deep enough. The last survey, concluded in June, found no sign of the pipe, said Corps spokesman Merv Brokke.
A more thorough survey of the anchorage was performed two months earlier, in April, when an Army Corps dredging ship lost one of its giant propellers while heading down the river.
"The people on board didn't hear anything, the vessel didn't list, they saw no leakage," said Coast Guard spokesman Buddy Dye. "The ship captain would have felt something, the pilot on the boat didn't feel anything, and the Coast Guard guys on the boat didn't report anything."
The Army Corps of Engineers conducted a week-long search of the river bottom using sonar-equipped vessels. "You have to go back twice, and, if you don't see it twice, it was just a mystery hit," said Joseph Scolari, who was overseeing the search for the Army Corps.
Officials are wrestling with the question of why no other ships on the heavily traveled route hit an object that was capable of causing so much damage to the Athos I.
Divers investigating the listing Athos I on Saturday found holes in the underwater cargo tank closest to the rear of the vessel and in an outside ballast tank, said Jim Lawrence, spokesman for the tanker's Greek owner, Tsakos Shipping and Trading SA.
Sarubbi said the video tape revealed that the holes were likely caused by something striking the exterior of the ship, but sonar surveys conducted by the Army Corps of Engineers have yet to reveal what may have ripped through the 2-inch layer of steel.
Divers exploring the listing tanker Saturday discovered holes in the underwater cargo tank closest to the stern -- or rear -- of the vessel and also in an outside ballast tank, said Jim Lawrence, a spokesman for the Greek shipping company Tsakos Shipping and Trading SA.
We have a 15 foot u-shaped pipe that may be cast iron....3 - 4 foot wide...tearing a 6 foot hole and a 2 foot hole into 2 inch thick steel on an oil tanker being pushed by a barge up the river at around 9:30 p.m. The area of these holes is in the rear of the ship...which I am guessing from the above picure is the area to the left, where the big white crew and steering quarters are located. No one heard or felt this happen.
IMO this 15 foot pipe would need to be wedged into a stationary object, or into the river bottom in such a way to cause significant force against the moving tanker. Or maybe the reason that the pipe is now u-shaped is because it was connected to something, and then broke-off or bent when the tanker hit it.
Years ago, an accident like the Exxon Valdez (sp?) was only considered an accident. Post 9/11, I think that any significant incident is looked at from many more different angles.
Thanks all4one. Good point on the crew not feeling or hearing anything and the force it would take to rip open 2-inch thick steel.
I'm not convinced this was an accident. The more I learn about this the stranger it becomes. I'm thinking eco-terrorism (ELF) or jihadis (AQ).
The FBI is investigating the mysterious death of a young American Jewish terrorism expert who worked at a think tank where research into Islamic extremism has drawn death threats, family and friends said.
Jason Korsower, 29, died in his sleep in his Washington apartment on Friday, November 26, after returning from Thanksgiving celebrations with his family in his native Atlanta.
For his 29 years, Korsower had lived a full life, thriving in a Jewish youth group, serving in the Israeli army in a crack infantry unit, studying religion and most recently plunging into terrorism research in Washington. He was also about to start law school.
Korsower's family and friends told JTA that FBI agents had gathered information about the death, but they know little else. An FBI agent in Atlanta, Steve Lazarus, refused to confirm or deny an investigation, citing FBI policy. However, an FBI spokeswoman in Washington, Debra Weierman, had referred JTA to the FBI's Atlanta bureau, even though JTA had not mentioned Korsower's hometown in its request for information.
Officials at the Investigative Project, where Korsower worked, also would not comment. The Investigative Project is run by Steve Emerson, whose predictions of a major Islamist attack in the 1990s enhanced his credibility as a terrorism expert after the attacks of September 11, 2001. After the attacks, the number of death threats against him and his organization ratcheted up – and drove his organization semi-underground.
The death of Korsower, who was athletic and believed to be in good health, continued to mystify his family, who is wracked with grief. An autopsy was inconclusive.
"It wasn't an aneurysm. It wasn't a heart attack. It wasn't the obvious things that could happen to a healthy 29-year-old," his mother, Karen Grablowsky, told JTA on Tuesday.
"I knew he worked for the Investigative Project. But we thought he was safe," she said, noting that Emerson himself said that it was very unlikely that he would have been targeted.
One of Jason's articles:
Jason Korsower of the Washington, D.C., counter-terrorism think tank The Investigative Project told CNSNews.com that "these events could be dry runs or decoys designed to divert the intelligence community's attention to planes while the next attack might be maritime or a truck bomb."
Best of luck to you on your exams and your grad school app. Besides getting some rest (per crabbie), make sure to make time to go out and take a brisk walk, run or some type of outdoor activity to keep your head clear. My personal escape prior to winter projects and exams, was a little cross country skiing or a quick downhill run or two.
I hope you're feeling better soon.
this just taken from jills site, with my analysis
http://www.homelandsecurityus.net/alkhdir_and_the_cheetah_and_alze.htm
Alkhdir and the cheetah and Alzeir and Alfqeh they go around the Kaaba with Ben Laden and started the distribution of the gold
12-8-2004
Posted by:
princebinladen
AlSalam Alaykoum
Did you read the address well
Alkhdir and the cheetah and Alzeir and Alfqeh they go around the Kaaba with Ben Laden and started the distribution of the gold
Did you read the address well
Did you know who brought the prisoners out of the darkness cellars
Did you know who allowed the opportunity for doctor Saad that he does his duty
Did you know who defeated America altogether and Fatah its arms that the bar that defiled the crusaders noses and sons commemorated it Judaize by the dust so that it returns to its family ........
.....You defeat the parties with support from Allah
By the day of attack . "
So, the price of gold skyrocketed a few months to a year back right. heres my theory. that price skyrocketed because Al-Qeuada bought a lot of gold, hence manipulating the price to go up. He has now distriuted that gold("Ben Laden and started the distribution of the gold") to his supporters, and they have sold it to fund the next operation, get militants out of jail("Did you know who brought the prisoners out of the darkness cellars"), and possibly help fund bio or nuclear terrorism("Did you know who allowed the opportunity for doctor Saad that he does his duty").
Las but not least, there was a post to "watch the price of gold". now, it is finally dropping, and dropping fast, and if you understand econmics you know that the price is prolly dorpping fast because there is more of a supply comign out now.. i dunno, just a theory and speculation, but anyone else see it that way to?
I was reading it to say that there would be a reward paid in gold for those who contribute to the getting rid of USA. I didn't see that it was directly related to the gold market...but I may be wrong.
too many "Dr. Saad"s coming up for google... one however, has ties to OBL and is a self proclaimed jihadi as well... maybe someone can come up with a better google, cindy, your always good at that :)
Yep.
I understand.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1297191/posts
"OIL FOR BLOOD" -Mia T
Attention Dial-Up Users: This is a large file.
His death sounds so very suspicious.
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