Dutch: Sex Education Question

[blakep]

If we are having problems with sexual education here in America, shouldn't we try to implement a system that the Dutch have in place? I don't know the positives/negatives of the system because I can't get any details on the web, can some of you help me out?

I hear they have an average of 8 pregnancies per 1,000. Plus their abortion rate is the lowest in the world.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Teen pregnancies passed 16 per 1000 back in 2002 and continue to get worse.

Look here.

[Conspiracy Guy]

Not wid me.

[blakep]

I see that, but this article is telling me that the reason is because the government isn't giving free handouts.

Isn't it something that people can't take personal responsibility for their own behavior.

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[international american]

I got a wife ana dog..not wid me either.

[weegee]

Well I notice that this chart includes pregnancies of 18 and 19 year olds:

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/factsheet/fsest.htm

Are these all unmarried pregnancies? Or is this like the "gun deaths of children" including gangsters up to age 25?

Also, it says that "average age of first sexual intercourse" in the US is 17.4years which I find very surprising in light of the way the media tries to portray it. The Netherlands and France have slightly higher average ages (18 and 17.7). Promiscuity in the US is double to quadruple the figures for people 18-19 (only age cited).

A culture based on "MTV Real World Hookups" and "Girls Gone Wild" videos, "I had an abortion" t-shirts, and where religious faith is so widely mocked is going to have problems with kids respecting themselves and sex.

[weegee]

The charts in some of these links also cite STD rates.

We live a country where Oral Sex isn't sex. "no need" for a condom, can't get pregnant (just as homosexuals have "no need" for them).

It isn't that people don't know about them. Show them the VD films that were screened in days of old. Confront them with pictures/footage of just what could "develop".

[Pitiricus]

How do you explain then lower rates in countries like France or Germany where religion is in decline?

Just asking!

[Pitiricus]

"Women from Surinam, Turkey, Morocco and especially the Dutch Caribbean, including those born in Holland, have far more abortions than "ethnic" Dutch women - some 60% of the total."

[Casloy]

Because there are lots of non-breeding homos and they commit suicide a lot. Tends to keep birth and abortion rates down.

Naaaa, that's the Swedes you're talking about.

[Casloy]

The classic liberal assumption that somehow statistics on abortion and pregnancy are based on sex education.

[weegee]

Religion may be in decline there but I doubt that such liberal elite mocking of it goes on.

The baby boom liberals sought to overthrow society. They are still pushing the sexual revolution (even to kids, look up the words "Sex Positive"). It is institutionalized. We have to change the way we are doing things. Sex Positive advocators claims that abstinence is bad policy not because it doesn't work but because it is "unhealthy" to deny sexual desires and not act on them.

[weegee]

Here in America, the DNC ("half" of America's voting populace) stress that "abortion is a cherished right".

Since there is no shame associated with it, the statistic is meaningless to those who boost the number in America.

How many cigarettes were smoked after sex in the different countries?

It would be interesting to have side by side (same survey) stats on what contributed to low pregnancies/abortions:

A) abstinence
B) masturbation (self, mutual, partner, group)
C) oral sex
(A-B-C being lifestyles that won't result in pregnancy)
D) used birth control: calculated rhythm method
D) used birth control: Condoms
E) used birth control: "the pill"
F) Abortion: Morning After pill
G) Abortion: Saw doctor
H) used nothing, got lucky

Helps to focus on "what works".

[weegee]

Add anal sex to that list. Also run the same questions on those who did/didn't contract STDs.

Also ask how many didn't even get tested for STDs.

[Lurking2Long]

Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!!!

[technochick99]

I would assume that is a cultural issue, rather than an education issue.

[Lurking2Long]

Perhaps it's something IN THE WATER?!!!!

[Kulturkaempfer]

Religion may be in decline there but I doubt that such liberal elite mocking of it goes on.

I hope so. It seems the pinkos and commies (which call themselves Greens today)are morally bankrupt. Recently a well known author of whom I really don't think that he's a conservative talked about a Christian Renaissance. The public reactions on some proposals by the commies, for example the creation of Islamic holiday in Germany, was very harsh. Ok, I'm living in the most conservative part of the country, but reactions like this or the events in Holland are really a wake-up-bomb for the formerly passive majority.

I also agree with your disgust with Sex Positive advocates. The individual is reduced to be the slave of sexual desires. Real liberty doesn't look this way.

[OldSgt.]

Ya, I've been down that street. And the then wife was with me. She wanted to see the area, kept asking if there was more to see, from the outside though.

[Conspiracy Guy]

LOL