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**ANTI-KIM JONG-IL FLYERS STARTING TO APPEAR AROUND N.KOREA: SECRET POLICE CRACKING DOWN**
Sankei Shimbun in Japanese (Tokyo) ^ | 18 November 2004 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 11/17/2004 12:50:28 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

Edited on 11/17/2004 1:06:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Report from Sankei (Japanese) newspaper (conservative) coming in today (per link).

Said that a number of hand made circulars have been circulating widely around North Korea (Pyongyang, Nampo, Chonjin, Sinuiju), etc. The flyers are by an underground anti-Kim Jong-il group active in North Korea.

Sankei says they support the defector Hwang Jang Yop, who is now in South Korea.

There are several flyers which counter the common DPRK Party myths and deifications about Kim Jong-il, showing Kim as a spoiled aristocrat rather that a man of the people, with the Russian nickname "Yura" who did not even grow up nor was born in North Korea. Driving wedges between Kim and the starving people, commenting on the rich food he eats while people starve. Saying the "Chuche" Ideology of the North is a big farce which merely enslaves the Korean people. Another underground flyer (again hand written and many copies run off) that is making the rounds in North Korea says "Kim Jong-il killed his father Kim il-Sung".

Sankei reports the North Korean Secret Police is mobilizing in an attempt to find out who is doing this. They have re-instituted/re-fortified a civilian registration system in Pyongyang to track citizens with an eye toward cracking down on this type of subversion. The flyers also contain detailed personal information on Kim Jong-il that only those in select positions would know. Accordingly, north Korean defectors theorize that these flyers are gaining some cooperation from some people in positions of power in the NK military or Party (anti-Kim elements emerging?).

Copies of these flyers have been spotted (or made it out to) China and picked up by sources there.

(Developing)


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To: Thud

in part. and for sure, transited China or at least the support function.


81 posted on 11/17/2004 1:47:06 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Guam is that far to the west? Jeez. I need to look at a Pacific map again. I thought the six o'clock dot was Okinawa but wasn't sure.
82 posted on 11/17/2004 1:47:33 PM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Constantine XIII
North Korea's New Leader:

Long Duck Dong
83 posted on 11/17/2004 1:48:36 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That's Hawaii there at three o'clock, about 7500 km, correct?


84 posted on 11/17/2004 1:49:24 PM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

As a counter here, another source could easily appear and say that 'no, Kim did not order it, he has gone to ground, and that senior level people have ordered it against his will'. Who knows? We will have to see what method the order to take them down came, and if the order (a copy) can be obtained or word of it can get out. Independent verification of this I believe is required from a number of sources. Thanks for the Yonhap story.


85 posted on 11/17/2004 1:49:53 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: All
So, is Kimmy singing a sad song about now?

From : http://music.ign.com/articles/558/558234p2.html

I'm So Lonely...

86 posted on 11/17/2004 1:51:04 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: Army Air Corps
My thought exactly. I told my friends weeks ago to start looking for signs of a made-in-China replacement regime. The Chinese did it to Kim Il Sung in 1951 (though he got rid of his replacement after the Korean War ended), and the Chinese have potent reasons for putting in their own puppet regime again now.

Nork civilians are ripping up railroad rails, ties, the electric cables which power the trains, etc., in areas where train service has ceased, and selling the stuff as scrap so they can buy food which ain't comin' their way by train no more.

This does look like North Korea's last winter unless the Chinese do a repeat within 6-9 months of what they did in 1951.

87 posted on 11/17/2004 1:51:27 PM PST by Thud
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Well, that's true of course. It is the world's first Commmunist Dynasty. Of course, in reality Kim Jong il was in control after the old man croaked, but out of Korean tradition, Kim was not officially (i.e. as in official titles) named to all the senior DPRK posts (Party, State, Military) until after that mourning period had been complete.


88 posted on 11/17/2004 1:51:56 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: Chemist_Geek

Yes. 3 p.m., just outside the green dotted circle.


89 posted on 11/17/2004 1:53:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; AdamSelene235
The Liberator What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army?
90 posted on 11/17/2004 1:55:02 PM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"Oh no, Hans Brix!"
"Why you blaking my barrs?"


91 posted on 11/17/2004 1:55:53 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Stop Arlen Spector Now!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; TigerLikesRooster; Dark Wing

should have included you in the addresses


92 posted on 11/17/2004 1:57:28 PM PST by Thud
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To: Thud

Thanks. I've been real bad about the ping list myself and apologies to those I often leave out!


93 posted on 11/17/2004 2:20:43 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

But what about General Franco? How's he doing?


94 posted on 11/17/2004 2:27:31 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Thud
Maybe a long shot, and in this information age things move quickly, but I would not be surprised that there are already bootleg videos (not necessarily DVDs) out on the streets in North Korea (coming in from China from traders and others) and among the elite, copies of the funny recent movie "Team America" where their Great Leader is skillfully made to look like an international laughing stock.

Combined with the pressure from China to ditch that Maoist/Stalinist Personal Worship crap and join the 21st century, that Kim Jong il himself or some of his top aides ordered a tone down on this Cult of Worship business as a result. The next few days we will know more. I myself think the guy is still alive and well.

I'll try to post a video stream link here of last night's (Korean time 17 November) Pyongyang TV portions which showed still photos of Kim visiting the Unit 754 (but leaving out the praising title they have used for years before saying his actual name).

95 posted on 11/17/2004 2:28:05 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: Army Air Corps
Would instability in the DPRK serve as an excuse for the PRC to "establish order"?

Ah, appearance's are deceiving. ...see tagline. :))

96 posted on 11/17/2004 2:33:01 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: pissant

"Hey, let's get the Southpark boys to send bootleg DVD's of Team America to NoKos. That would cause an instant revolution."

Only if you also send DVD players, TV's, electrical generators a power grid and snack foods as well.


97 posted on 11/17/2004 2:35:55 PM PST by Grig
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To: Constantine XIII

"But what about General Franco? How's he doing?"

Still dead, I'm afraid.


98 posted on 11/17/2004 2:42:21 PM PST by Vicomte13 (La nuit s'acheve!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
A little money in the hands of the right people, and look what you've got. You can bet we're behind this. W won't be just sittin around waiting on Kim to just go away.

I'm sure we're stirin up sh*t in Iran too.

99 posted on 11/17/2004 2:44:07 PM PST by narby
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Cool. It is time that North Koreans know the real Kim Jong-Il. He is a criminal.


100 posted on 11/17/2004 2:44:18 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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