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To: Brilliant

Let me ask you a question. So what if China invades Taiwan. I mean, what if we just turned our heads and said it is local affair between the same peoples but with differences politically?

I mean so what? AS opposed if we were to fight the Chinese on Taiwan's behalf.

nick


4 posted on 11/17/2004 10:37:23 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

I'd rather destroy China than let them invade taiwan.


8 posted on 11/17/2004 10:39:47 AM PST by pissant
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To: nikos1121

My primary concern is that there is a whole lot of American money invested in China and Taiwan.

Of course, the other problem is that we have a treaty with Taiwan.

We would not be having this problem is the Clinton administration had not let the Chinese have our MIRVing technology, and our missile guidance technology.

Personally, I think the Chinese will eventually figure out that being aggressive toward the US and its allies is not a good strategy, but it might take a while.


15 posted on 11/17/2004 10:43:17 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: nikos1121
If we looked the other way we would be abandoning our core national beliefs in my opinion! Reagan would roll over in his grave.
16 posted on 11/17/2004 10:43:36 AM PST by KoRn
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To: nikos1121

"So what if China invades Taiwan."

I suggest you also read post #1 on the Eurasian Axis. The US becomes ever more isolated and surrounded with each new country the Eurasian Axis brings over to their side and/or conquer.


22 posted on 11/17/2004 10:46:58 AM PST by TapTheSource
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To: nikos1121
"......So what if China invades Taiwan.........."

Acquiescence to the Fascist Chinese breeds further contempt and aggression by the Fascist Chinese.

We unfortunately learned a somewhat similar lesson after the Klintoon/Les Aspin debacle in Somalia in 1992.

37 posted on 11/17/2004 10:56:32 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: nikos1121

Let me ask you a question as well. What if, in 1940, when Hitler attacked the UK, the US were to have just turned our heads and said it is a local affair between European peoples but differences politically.

I mean so what? AS opposed if we were to fight the Nazis on the UK's behalf.

Idiot


39 posted on 11/17/2004 10:57:52 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: nikos1121
Spoken like a true American.

Taiwan is one of the few true allies the USA has in this scary world.

51 posted on 11/17/2004 11:05:39 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: nikos1121

Afraid I agree. How many Taiwanese are fighting in Fallujah this week? There's also the Sudan. The world is overwhelmed by tyranny and evil. There are just so many locations that we can manage.


52 posted on 11/17/2004 11:07:31 AM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: nikos1121

Dubya or any president would have to ignore the Taiwan Relations Act which (it's my understanding, not sure of the fine print niceties) requires the United States to come to Taiwan's defense if they are attacked. Our relations with both the PRC and ROC have been a high wire act ever since Nixon's visit and joint communique in 1972.


53 posted on 11/17/2004 11:10:25 AM PST by katana
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If Taiwan is lost, Japan is next.


69 posted on 11/17/2004 11:29:44 AM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular-vote victory in history, and first popular-vote majority in 16 years!)
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To: nikos1121
Ask yourself why China sees the very existence of Taiwan as a threat, and then you'll have the answer to why the would see everyone else as a threat. Its the same reason Whites, Choctaw, and Cherokee were threatened by how the Seminole let their "slaves" run around armed and free. Makes the other slaves a bit uppity.

Communist/Socialist don't believe they can exist or function correctly unless the entire world is communist. They make National Socialism seem benign.
79 posted on 11/17/2004 11:47:42 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: nikos1121
Let me ask you a question. So what if China invades Taiwan. I mean, what if we just turned our heads and said it is local affair between the same peoples but with differences politically? I mean so what? AS opposed if we were to fight the Chinese on Taiwan's behalf. nick

Well, then America has plenty of lawyers to protect violence, force and not truth and peace. The result is that we will have invited a market for such evil on our own shore.... hence 911.

80 posted on 11/17/2004 11:48:02 AM PST by JudgemAll
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To: nikos1121
Let me ask you a question. So what if China invades Taiwan. I mean, what if we just turned our heads and said it is local affair between the same peoples but with differences politically?

Why? Because you don't turn your back on your friends in their time of need, that's why. The Taiwanese have been independent from mainland China for hundreds of years. Jimmy Carter stabbed Taiwan in the back when he broke diplomatic relations with the Taiwanese in the 70s and they despise him for it. (Well deserved, IMO)

A truism regarding human behavior: if no contraints are placed on behavior, the individual or group will continue to push the bounds of behavior until something forces them to stop. The Chinese are currently seeing how much they can get away with. So far, resistance has been from non-existence to light. Expect their hegemonistic practices to continue until somebody (like US) forces them to stop.

102 posted on 11/17/2004 12:30:09 PM PST by Cooltouch
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To: nikos1121

"Let me ask you a question. So what if China invades Taiwan. I mean, what if we just turned our heads and said it is local affair between the same peoples but with differences politically?"

- Maybe you're right Mr. Chamberlain, but does the expression, "paper tiger" ring a bell?


128 posted on 11/17/2004 1:53:59 PM PST by finnigan2
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To: nikos1121; TapTheSource; All
I am jumping into this a little after the fact, but that being said...

The conflict between Taiwan and the PRC is largely based around culture and politics.

First, culture. The PRC is an Imperial power. For, oh, the last 2000 years this same crap has been going on.

Meaning, the Chinese have been going on and on about only having one Dynasty at a time.

Taiwan represents the last ideological holdout-preventing a dynastic consolidation of power under their regime.

Communism is a side issue. Its foreign to China and slowly dying out. Dynastic rule on the other hand is not, and its as strong as ever, and in fact, being revived. Thats the crux of the issue.

Now, is having a unified 'China' (A word that doesn't even exist in Chinese) nessesarily a bad thing?

No. BUT, it depends on how that unification happens. If its done via some brand of facism (again-not at all foreign to China) and for no other reason other than facist politics...and not to mention killing people over it...should we allow that?

Picture this: Saddam having some poor Kuwaiti kneeling at his feet---and forcing him to confess that Saddam is the King.

Truth is, he tried to do that through nothing more than mideval means-- and China is no different.

To just turn a blind eye is literally to deny everything we stand for in the world. After WWII what was set up in Europe? What about Japan? Truth is, if we let it run wild in Asia...it will.

The only route out of this whole affair is for the PRC to change. We will either have to engage them now, and prod them along to change in a civil manner...or we will have to conquer them later and change them by force later.

151 posted on 11/17/2004 6:21:21 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: nikos1121

I mean so what? AS opposed if we were to fight the Chinese on Taiwan's behalf."

If not on Tiawan's behalf, it will be something else.


181 posted on 11/17/2004 8:37:10 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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