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CHINA WATCHES, WAITS: MASSIVE MILITARY BUILD-UP, MAJOR ESPIONAGE EFFORT
INA Today ^ | November 17, 2004 | By Toby Westerman

Posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:59 AM PST by TapTheSource

CHINA WATCHES, WAITS: MASSIVE MILITARY BUILD-UP, MAJOR ESPIONAGE EFFORT

November 17, 2004 By Toby Westerman Copyright 2004 International News Analysis Today www.inatoday.com

Despite assurances from just-resigned Secretary of State Collin Powell regarding U.S.-China relations, the second term of the administration of George W. Bush could encounter a major war in the Pacific, and is witnessing a major espionage offensive.

Communist China is demonstrating an increasingly high level of aggression and military intrusion against its neighbors, engaging in actions which could pull the United States into a naval war in the Pacific.

Taiwan faces invasion - possibly at any moment -- from China, at least one Chinese submarine has intruded into Japanese waters, and, most amazingly, Chinese intelligence services have been able to acquire a file of personal data on nearly every inhabitant on the island of Taiwan. Communist China's spy services have targeted and succeeded in obtaining files on military service records, vehicle and household registration, and national health data, according to the Taiwan news daily, the Taipei Times.

China claims Taiwan as a rebel province. The government on Taiwan, known formally as the Republic of China on Taiwan (ROC), fled to the island following its defeat at the hands of Communist forces on the mainland. Although the U.S. no longer has formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan, the U.S. remains committed to the island under the terms of the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act.

China's ability to compromise nearly every citizen of Taiwan, including the highest ranking military and governmental personnel, raises alarming questions concerning Beijing's espionage capabilities directed against other opponents, including the United States. Already in the mid and late 1990s, newspaper headlines reported the loss of important U.S. military and technology secrets to China. It is an open question as to how far Beijing has gone in the penetration and documentation of American society.

The mainland Communist government remains adamant in its determination to invade at the first declaration of Taiwan independence, and recent statements from Beijing declare that Taiwan is "playing with fire" as it presses for recognition as a separate nation.

Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian has vowed to seek a membership for Taiwan in the United Nations as an independent state, further enraging Beijing.

China is conducting an impressive modernization of its armed forces, which leads Pentagon observers to warn that Beijing could eventually rival U.S. forces in the Pacific. China is building an increasingly sophisticated military to successfully obstruct any U.S. attempt to aid Taiwan in case of Communist invasion.

China's military capabilities potentially not only threaten Taiwan, as China's disputes with its neighbors grow and as the nations in the Asia-Pacific region keep a wary eye on the increasingly powerful Red Dragon.

Japanese naval forces recently hunted a foreign submarine intruding into Japan's territorial waters. Indications from the sub's identifiable sounds and its course of sail pointed to Communist China as its nation of origin.

The incident occurred 75 miles south of a group of disputed islands, known as the Senkaku to the Japanese and Diaoyu to the Chinese, highlighting the contest between Japan and China for oil and gas resources believed to exist in the region.

Following two days of international crisis, China finally admitted that the "mystery" sub was theirs, and claimed a "technical error" for the intrusion.

The United States Navy is the only major force in the Pacific belonging to a democratic nation, and America remains committed to the defense of Taiwan, Japan and other allies in the region.

In 1958, the U.S. fought alongside Taiwanese forces in a deadly artillery conflict with China's Peoples Liberation Army, and in the following years sent naval forces on several occasions to deter a mainland attack on Taiwan.

As China's power grows, so too will the challenge to the U.S. presence in the region, and America's commitment to its allies.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; china; chinesemilitary; communistchina; japan; redchina; russia
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

My friend, they have already chosen.


121 posted on 11/17/2004 1:10:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Brilliant

"A lot of American companies are risking a lot of capital by investing in China."

And risking their dignity and respect for our country.


122 posted on 11/17/2004 1:11:30 PM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: Stew Padasso

Read SSN and The Bear and the Dragon by Tom Clancy. The man is a prophet.


123 posted on 11/17/2004 1:20:02 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy
What if they are already there?

What if they just fly in on commercial airlines?

What if the large number of those people in Taiwan that support merging with China go along with the program and form an internal core to help the Communist Chinese that have been infilitrating over the last 5 years?

Taiwan may just quickly surrender, rather than defend themselves and thus see massive destruction of its infrastructure.


Excellent points. I also happen to agree with them. China is not going to waste a vast amount of resources to take one small island nation, but they still want it as it is of strategic importance. So we have a dilemma on our hands here with respect to what we think China will do rather than thinking what China is thinking to do. China is very observant about the past and current movements. They will take a path that is of least resistance to them to save on resources, time, and outside sources(namely us). They will think outside the box, and our overthrow of Saddam will only reinforce that way of thinking since they have to be careful on how they proceed and at the same time it has also influence their outlook on warfare. I highly doubt that we have seen what they really are thinking in terms of their ability to plan.

If they get enough insurgents into their society that our qualified special forces personnel, then they have what they need to decapitate Taiwan's C4I. Given the info on what they have on every person the Intelligence aspect of this is already a moot point. You can assume that a number of key individuals in Taiwan's armed forces are already compromised. You can also assume that they have enough political or want to be political leaders ready to tout some form of a PRC line as you have suggested. All that is need is the elimination or blinding of Taiwan’s defense forces to allow for enough time. Then it’s a done deal. We would have to reluctantly agree not to get involved or further involved. Anyone fighting or in a resistance would simply be killed quickly either by informants or unfortunately groups set up by the PRC government that goes out and portrays themselves a rebels against the PRC. Any concentration of Defense forces still willing to fight could be targeted by a missile barrage since they are accurate enough. Of course there are different scenarios that can take place or more ingenious methods of warfare that hasten a PRC victory. If we don’t wake up to that aspect of things we are going to be sorely surprised.
124 posted on 11/17/2004 1:37:09 PM PST by DarkWaters
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To: Paperdoll

Kofi Annan urges China to play bigger role in international peacekeeping operations
"Go out and make the world better!"

125 posted on 11/17/2004 1:37:52 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: TapTheSource
Gee, I hear that from SKorean apologists, too. Everybody's too busy to help, too scared, too....

Well, I don't really give a hoot if China wants to invade Taiwan. I'm too busy and scared.

126 posted on 11/17/2004 1:52:43 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
re: We must not abandon Taiwan. ))

What's "must not" about it?

127 posted on 11/17/2004 1:53:43 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: nikos1121

"Let me ask you a question. So what if China invades Taiwan. I mean, what if we just turned our heads and said it is local affair between the same peoples but with differences politically?"

- Maybe you're right Mr. Chamberlain, but does the expression, "paper tiger" ring a bell?


128 posted on 11/17/2004 1:53:59 PM PST by finnigan2
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To: JesseHousman

Nope. I don't capice. If Taiwan can't help in the WOT (and I'd like to see a source for your assertion that Bush does not want their help), we can't help Taiwan. I'm sick of the Frances of this world.


129 posted on 11/17/2004 1:56:19 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: Cooltouch
re: Why? Because you don't turn your back on your friends in their time of need, that's why.)))

How are they such good friends?

130 posted on 11/17/2004 1:57:30 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: asgardshill
re: I do not see us having enough assets to open a second front to protect Taiwan and the Far East at this time.)))

Dittoes. I've read through all the posts and smell a "seminar"--a little PR campaign. Hegemony for me and thee.

131 posted on 11/17/2004 2:00:28 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: MTOrlando

"Uh, the Chinese are Communists, and the only way you can "work out your differences" with Communists is to become a Communist yourself, or run them into the ground like Reagan did."

Well said. Of course, we would have disagreements about the last part...but we wouldn't disagree for Reagan's lack of trying. Had Golitsyn defected during Reagan's presidency (as opposed to JFK's) I think the world would be a lot safer place right now.


132 posted on 11/17/2004 2:18:26 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: WRhine; JesseHousman

"As the citizens of China experience a rising standard of living they will throw out the communists just like they tried to do in 1989."

Red China will not allow a middle class to develop and challenge their rule, that's why they employ slave labor.


133 posted on 11/17/2004 2:27:14 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Paperdoll

"Thank you, TTS, for the heads up on the link in post#88."

Thank you. I have several more links that I think you will find of great interest. Let me know if you would like me to ping them to you.


134 posted on 11/17/2004 2:29:24 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: MTOrlando

"Wasn't Reagan the one who abandoned the grain embargo against the USSR?"

Very true. It was one of the few good things Carter ever did during his presidency. Oh well, no President is perfect.


135 posted on 11/17/2004 2:31:52 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: IStillBelieve

Or, Southeast Asia. In that case, the whole "can they or can't they handle amphibious ops" cannard become irrelevant. For them, taking SE Asia would be simple blitzkreig - tanks, guns, trucks, TELs, etc.


136 posted on 11/17/2004 2:37:47 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Strategerist

My biggest concern is SE Asia. No one has looked at that scenario in any depth. I know. I have looked in many places for substantial studies. Almost nada - everything is about Taiwan.


137 posted on 11/17/2004 2:39:11 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

"Let me get this straight, they are considered our good ally, yet they are told by President Bush not to put up 2 or 3 hundred troops to serve in Iraq as a show of alligence to us, because that will make China invade Taiwan?"

Chaing Kai-Shek offered to fight the Red Chinese in Korea for us (the US/UN prevented his troops from entering the fight)...he made this offer knowing that Commie-symps in the State Dept. and elsewhere in our government sold him out in favor of Mao. They have also been a major check on Red China for many years since then. In short, cut Taiwan some slack.


138 posted on 11/17/2004 2:40:38 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: bullseye876; SJackson; Zionist Conspirator

"Taiwan. The Israel of Asia."

Man, that's brilliant! You hit the nail right on the head with that one.


139 posted on 11/17/2004 2:44:07 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Mamzelle


Huh?


140 posted on 11/17/2004 2:50:17 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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