Posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:59 AM PST by TapTheSource
CHINA WATCHES, WAITS: MASSIVE MILITARY BUILD-UP, MAJOR ESPIONAGE EFFORT
November 17, 2004 By Toby Westerman Copyright 2004 International News Analysis Today www.inatoday.com
Despite assurances from just-resigned Secretary of State Collin Powell regarding U.S.-China relations, the second term of the administration of George W. Bush could encounter a major war in the Pacific, and is witnessing a major espionage offensive.
Communist China is demonstrating an increasingly high level of aggression and military intrusion against its neighbors, engaging in actions which could pull the United States into a naval war in the Pacific.
Taiwan faces invasion - possibly at any moment -- from China, at least one Chinese submarine has intruded into Japanese waters, and, most amazingly, Chinese intelligence services have been able to acquire a file of personal data on nearly every inhabitant on the island of Taiwan. Communist China's spy services have targeted and succeeded in obtaining files on military service records, vehicle and household registration, and national health data, according to the Taiwan news daily, the Taipei Times.
China claims Taiwan as a rebel province. The government on Taiwan, known formally as the Republic of China on Taiwan (ROC), fled to the island following its defeat at the hands of Communist forces on the mainland. Although the U.S. no longer has formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan, the U.S. remains committed to the island under the terms of the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act.
China's ability to compromise nearly every citizen of Taiwan, including the highest ranking military and governmental personnel, raises alarming questions concerning Beijing's espionage capabilities directed against other opponents, including the United States. Already in the mid and late 1990s, newspaper headlines reported the loss of important U.S. military and technology secrets to China. It is an open question as to how far Beijing has gone in the penetration and documentation of American society.
The mainland Communist government remains adamant in its determination to invade at the first declaration of Taiwan independence, and recent statements from Beijing declare that Taiwan is "playing with fire" as it presses for recognition as a separate nation.
Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian has vowed to seek a membership for Taiwan in the United Nations as an independent state, further enraging Beijing.
China is conducting an impressive modernization of its armed forces, which leads Pentagon observers to warn that Beijing could eventually rival U.S. forces in the Pacific. China is building an increasingly sophisticated military to successfully obstruct any U.S. attempt to aid Taiwan in case of Communist invasion.
China's military capabilities potentially not only threaten Taiwan, as China's disputes with its neighbors grow and as the nations in the Asia-Pacific region keep a wary eye on the increasingly powerful Red Dragon.
Japanese naval forces recently hunted a foreign submarine intruding into Japan's territorial waters. Indications from the sub's identifiable sounds and its course of sail pointed to Communist China as its nation of origin.
The incident occurred 75 miles south of a group of disputed islands, known as the Senkaku to the Japanese and Diaoyu to the Chinese, highlighting the contest between Japan and China for oil and gas resources believed to exist in the region.
Following two days of international crisis, China finally admitted that the "mystery" sub was theirs, and claimed a "technical error" for the intrusion.
The United States Navy is the only major force in the Pacific belonging to a democratic nation, and America remains committed to the defense of Taiwan, Japan and other allies in the region.
In 1958, the U.S. fought alongside Taiwanese forces in a deadly artillery conflict with China's Peoples Liberation Army, and in the following years sent naval forces on several occasions to deter a mainland attack on Taiwan.
As China's power grows, so too will the challenge to the U.S. presence in the region, and America's commitment to its allies.
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Thought you guys might be interested in the above article re: Red China's war preparations and the Russian/Red China/Eurasian Alliance. My humble apologies if I already pinged you.
From article: "China's ability to compromise nearly every citizen of Taiwan, including the highest ranking military and governmental personnel, raises alarming questions concerning Beijing's espionage capabilities directed against other opponents, including the United States. Already in the mid and late 1990s, newspaper headlines reported the loss of important U.S. military and technology secrets to China. It is an open question as to how far Beijing has gone in the penetration and documentation of American society. "
"Loss of important U.S. military and technology" - ? It wasn't so much a "loss" as a give away - from the Clinton Administration - People know this - and I would suspect if Hill- could get hundreds of FBI files on Republicans and others - then China would have had no problem getting the information they may have wanted also -
We are seeing the result of letting Dog Clinton and the Hill- stay in power - I hope the Senators are pleased at what they have done - (sigh) ()
Perhaps(in every government dept.) remove the ones who aided them(Clintons and their corrupt people) - then adjust - and go from there - trust no one with vital information - especially any Socialist Democrat - I don't care what the rules say - the nation should come first - Deprive China of it's information hot line (McCain? and any other who speak the talk of Kerry and the like)
I also hope Russia goes the other way - other than the one most over there and some here believe - Time will tell - -
I also wish Taiwan would cool it - What is the rush - especially since China has - if true - all that information on them - I say find the spy(or more if so) - or avenue for the leak - first - Like close the door - and do what they can before China puts the screws to work -
Doesn't hurt to get ready - if one really knows the score - but so many in Washington D.C. seem to be in bed with China - and it's hard to understand why - Even President Bush seems pleased - and what would the American public do without their goods from China - ()
A mystery keeps life interesting at the very least
Yes - President Bush was very happy to have China in on talks over N.K. - mentioned in the second debate I believe -
Care to weigh in on the following poll???
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1282481/posts
"Yes - President Bush was very happy to have China in on talks over N.K."
I think both of them (and Russia) are playing us just like the Soviets played us during the Cuban Missile Crises.
Okay, first of all, a major naval war in the Pacific ought not to raise visions of In Harms Way with John Wayne or The Sands of Iwo Jima also starring the Duke. A war of this nature, in this time, will almost certainly involve the use of tactical nukes. These could be nuclear tipped torpedoes, or anti-ship missiles or possibly cruise missiles against land installations. This won't be a matter of hunting for the enemy.
As vast as the Pacific is, with orbiting spy satellites, there are very few places we can't see anywhere we wish. When it comes to surface battles, the era of the dreadnought is over. No more exchanges of cannon fire. Now it will be a single anti-ship missile flying from over the horizon at six feet above the waves and POOF! No more vessel.
There is a danger of alliances. With whom will the Chinese ally themselves? If Russia, then things could go south very quickly, especially in the light of their new nuclear missile technology. North Korea might be a player here too.
For that matter, since the UN and NATO has not exactly embraced our military activities, what makes anybody think they'll be panting to join us in next time? They want to see us fail in a major way. I wouldn't be too surprised to see the EU line up with the other guys. In fact, I think that NATO will be dissolved quite soon, because the combined military might of the EU will make it only a burden and they have always disliked feeling ummmmm beholdin' to us anyway. If NATO is dissolved or at least destabilized, what sides will the EU take in any conflict? Especially France (not that we'd have to worry, but how would we guard all the prisoners?) and Germany.
I keep thinking about the thread that Quix set up on prophetic dreams. I also know that in order for Biblical prophesy to advance, this country has to be taken off the world stage or else the AntiChrist will not be able to rise and history conclude the final acts.
"I also know that in order for Biblical prophesy to advance, this country has to be taken off the world stage or else the AntiChrist will not be able to rise and history conclude the final acts."
A pre-tribulation rapture would leave this country morally and spiritually defensless against the AntiChrist.
Agreed - (Interesting article where the pictures are gone of the leader of N.K. - probably done to see if the information got out - or maybe China got tired of trying to control the guy and stole the pictures out of spite. (grin) In any event - the U.S. should never have stopped the K. war - they should have taken on China back then and anyone else who wanted to play - in my opinion - a war left unfinished has a way of coming back big time - Take Iraq as another example)
And I don't see any need to come to the aid of Clinton(like one poster did) - His treason is recorded in the Records of Congress. Everything must be saved - for History to judge correctly -
We're already morally defenseless. If we weren't, the election would have been a serious landslide of the type that Reagan saw against Carter.
The conflict between Taiwan and the PRC is largely based around culture and politics.
First, culture. The PRC is an Imperial power. For, oh, the last 2000 years this same crap has been going on.
Meaning, the Chinese have been going on and on about only having one Dynasty at a time.
Taiwan represents the last ideological holdout-preventing a dynastic consolidation of power under their regime.
Communism is a side issue. Its foreign to China and slowly dying out. Dynastic rule on the other hand is not, and its as strong as ever, and in fact, being revived. Thats the crux of the issue.
Now, is having a unified 'China' (A word that doesn't even exist in Chinese) nessesarily a bad thing?
No. BUT, it depends on how that unification happens. If its done via some brand of facism (again-not at all foreign to China) and for no other reason other than facist politics...and not to mention killing people over it...should we allow that?
Picture this: Saddam having some poor Kuwaiti kneeling at his feet---and forcing him to confess that Saddam is the King.
Truth is, he tried to do that through nothing more than mideval means-- and China is no different.
To just turn a blind eye is literally to deny everything we stand for in the world. After WWII what was set up in Europe? What about Japan? Truth is, if we let it run wild in Asia...it will.
The only route out of this whole affair is for the PRC to change. We will either have to engage them now, and prod them along to change in a civil manner...or we will have to conquer them later and change them by force later.
"Communism is a side issue."
I agree with most everything you said, but strongly disagree with the above statement.
In the context of history, communism is just a mere blip on the radar. Have you been to China lately?
In China there is a continuity of a 'type' of political rule, and largely culture for more than 2,000 years.
Communism was an experiment gone bad...and most people in China know that.
At the same time, China has never abandoned the dynastic rule that is the root of the problem.
The Communists always adapt the revolution to the history and customs of the target country. Red China is no exception.
If you are talking historically, as in the last 100 years... it was a HUGE problem...but gradually it has started to die out.
If you look at things in a snapshot of just that time frame...I can see your point.
If you step back and look at the larger picture it was a foreign idea put into China. It was experimented on for 30 years and then began to decline, which it continues today to do just that.
My point is, there is something larger than communism in China that is at the root of the problem between the PRC and Taiwan.
If though it wasn't communist, and just some other random dynasty, the conflict would remain the same.
Its deeply rooted in the culture.
"My point is, there is something larger than communism in China that is at the root of the problem between the PRC and Taiwan."
If the Communists in Red China would allow a middle class to develop I might agree with you. But they wont, because they know it would challenge their hold on power. Thus permanent slave labor/sweat shops where wages and working conditions never improve. There are very good reasons (from a Communist perspective) why they are running their economy in this manner.
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