CHINA WATCHES, WAITS: MASSIVE MILITARY BUILD-UP, MAJOR ESPIONAGE EFFORT

INA Today ^ | November 17, 2004 | By Toby Westerman

[DoughtyOne]

My friend, they have already chosen.

[Stew Padasso]

"A lot of American companies are risking a lot of capital by investing in China."

And risking their dignity and respect for our country.

[massgopguy]

Read SSN and The Bear and the Dragon by Tom Clancy. The man is a prophet.

[DarkWaters]

What if they are already there?

What if they just fly in on commercial airlines?

What if the large number of those people in Taiwan that support merging with China go along with the program and form an internal core to help the Communist Chinese that have been infilitrating over the last 5 years?

Taiwan may just quickly surrender, rather than defend themselves and thus see massive destruction of its infrastructure.

Excellent points. I also happen to agree with them. China is not going to waste a vast amount of resources to take one small island nation, but they still want it as it is of strategic importance. So we have a dilemma on our hands here with respect to what we think China will do rather than thinking what China is thinking to do. China is very observant about the past and current movements. They will take a path that is of least resistance to them to save on resources, time, and outside sources(namely us). They will think outside the box, and our overthrow of Saddam will only reinforce that way of thinking since they have to be careful on how they proceed and at the same time it has also influence their outlook on warfare. I highly doubt that we have seen what they really are thinking in terms of their ability to plan.

If they get enough insurgents into their society that our qualified special forces personnel, then they have what they need to decapitate Taiwan's C4I. Given the info on what they have on every person the Intelligence aspect of this is already a moot point. You can assume that a number of key individuals in Taiwan's armed forces are already compromised. You can also assume that they have enough political or want to be political leaders ready to tout some form of a PRC line as you have suggested. All that is need is the elimination or blinding of Taiwan’s defense forces to allow for enough time. Then it’s a done deal. We would have to reluctantly agree not to get involved or further involved. Anyone fighting or in a resistance would simply be killed quickly either by informants or unfortunately groups set up by the PRC government that goes out and portrays themselves a rebels against the PRC. Any concentration of Defense forces still willing to fight could be targeted by a missile barrage since they are accurate enough. Of course there are different scenarios that can take place or more ingenious methods of warfare that hasten a PRC victory. If we don’t wake up to that aspect of things we are going to be sorely surprised.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Kofi Annan urges China to play bigger role in international peacekeeping operations
"Go out and make the world better!"

[Mamzelle]

Gee, I hear that from SKorean apologists, too. Everybody's too busy to help, too scared, too....

Well, I don't really give a hoot if China wants to invade Taiwan. I'm too busy and scared.

[Mamzelle]

re: We must not abandon Taiwan. ))

What's "must not" about it?

[finnigan2]

"Let me ask you a question. So what if China invades Taiwan. I mean, what if we just turned our heads and said it is local affair between the same peoples but with differences politically?"

- Maybe you're right Mr. Chamberlain, but does the expression, "paper tiger" ring a bell?

[Mamzelle]

Nope. I don't capice. If Taiwan can't help in the WOT (and I'd like to see a source for your assertion that Bush does not want their help), we can't help Taiwan. I'm sick of the Frances of this world.

[Mamzelle]

re: Why? Because you don't turn your back on your friends in their time of need, that's why.)))

How are they such good friends?

[Mamzelle]

re: I do not see us having enough assets to open a second front to protect Taiwan and the Far East at this time.)))

Dittoes. I've read through all the posts and smell a "seminar"--a little PR campaign. Hegemony for me and thee.

[TapTheSource]

"Uh, the Chinese are Communists, and the only way you can "work out your differences" with Communists is to become a Communist yourself, or run them into the ground like Reagan did."

Well said. Of course, we would have disagreements about the last part...but we wouldn't disagree for Reagan's lack of trying. Had Golitsyn defected during Reagan's presidency (as opposed to JFK's) I think the world would be a lot safer place right now.

[TapTheSource]

"As the citizens of China experience a rising standard of living they will throw out the communists just like they tried to do in 1989."

Red China will not allow a middle class to develop and challenge their rule, that's why they employ slave labor.

[TapTheSource]

"Thank you, TTS, for the heads up on the link in post#88."

Thank you. I have several more links that I think you will find of great interest. Let me know if you would like me to ping them to you.

[TapTheSource]

"Wasn't Reagan the one who abandoned the grain embargo against the USSR?"

Very true. It was one of the few good things Carter ever did during his presidency. Oh well, no President is perfect.

[GOP_1900AD]

Or, Southeast Asia. In that case, the whole "can they or can't they handle amphibious ops" cannard become irrelevant. For them, taking SE Asia would be simple blitzkreig - tanks, guns, trucks, TELs, etc.

[GOP_1900AD]

My biggest concern is SE Asia. No one has looked at that scenario in any depth. I know. I have looked in many places for substantial studies. Almost nada - everything is about Taiwan.

[TapTheSource]

"Let me get this straight, they are considered our good ally, yet they are told by President Bush not to put up 2 or 3 hundred troops to serve in Iraq as a show of alligence to us, because that will make China invade Taiwan?"

Chaing Kai-Shek offered to fight the Red Chinese in Korea for us (the US/UN prevented his troops from entering the fight)...he made this offer knowing that Commie-symps in the State Dept. and elsewhere in our government sold him out in favor of Mao. They have also been a major check on Red China for many years since then. In short, cut Taiwan some slack.

[TapTheSource]

"Taiwan. The Israel of Asia."

Man, that's brilliant! You hit the nail right on the head with that one.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Huh?