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Packing Up (Cornell University students looking to help NY secede to Canada)
© Ithaca Times 2004 ^ | November 17, 2004 | By: Jill Raygor

Posted on 11/17/2004 8:30:09 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

ITHACA--The 2004 Presidential election may be decided, but that doesn't mean everyone is pleased.

The divide between the red and the blue states (states were divided by color depending on whether they voted Republican or Democrat) seems to run even deeper than simple political lines. Some Cornell University students are looking to help New York secede from the Union.

"After the election we were all sitting around commiserating in the office and conversation turned to this divide between the red and blue states," said Harsh Vishwasrao, a graduate student in the applied and engineering physics department at Cornell University.

Vishwasrao says the ideas to create a flag contest for a new United States of Canada and to write a letter of secession to Paul Martin, the Prime Minister of Canada, about their plan were the brainchild of post-doctoral students Rebecca Williams and Liz Rhoades.

The students are currently working on a draft of their letter to Martin and plan to include a copy of the winning flag from the contest.

There is no criteria for the flags other than that the blue states join Canada and the red states remain on their own.

"There is a flag with a Smurf holding the Canadian maple leaf," Vishwasrao said. "Some flags are serious, some are whimsical."

Passersby simply put a checkmark on the bulletin board to indicate their choice judge the flags, and judging follows an honor code.

"We hold an honor code that you only vote once, which didn't hold in our election, but we hope will hold in our flag selection," Vishwasrao said, adding that judging seems to be wrapping up this week.

He added that there is no formal statement that the group is trying to make. The whole contest originated from a casual observation of the division of the United States in terms of politics.

"The thing that was really interesting," Vishwasrao said, "was that after this came about I was talking to a friend on the Internet who was sitting in an office in Seattle who said, 'We had the same idea over here.' So we're not just the local leftist nuts."

Vishwasrao stresses that the division of the Democrat and Republican states has been present "since the Civil War" and is not something new over the past two presidential elections.

"The blue states have more in common with the political ideology of Canada than we do with the red states. Make of that what you will," he said. "It's not treason or anything; we're not saying it's a serious course of action."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: canada; cityofevil; cornell; ithaca
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Note to Walter Scott the answer is yes.

"Breathes there the man with soul so dead
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne’er within him burned,
As home his footsteps he hath turned
From wandering on a foreign strand!
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonored , and unsung.

Vishwasrao is his name. BTW anybody checked his student visa?


61 posted on 11/17/2004 9:25:07 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush your enemies; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women - Conan)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I still need to make those shirts... "Nuke Berkeley - Bomb Ithaca"


ugh!


62 posted on 11/17/2004 9:25:44 AM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Feel free to make comments to Harsh personally at his email address: hdv2@cornell.edu


Enjoy!


63 posted on 11/17/2004 9:26:14 AM PST by Vasilli22
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To: Zac79
First of all, as a New Yorker who would have loved to have been able to vote for Howard Dean this year

Here kitty, kitty, kitty.

64 posted on 11/17/2004 9:27:10 AM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Some Cornell University students are looking to help New York secede from the Union.

You can have the blue counties with my blessing. Try anything with the red ones and you'll be doomed to disappointment.

65 posted on 11/17/2004 9:27:18 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Y'all don't let the door hit you in the @ss on yer way out now; Hear?


66 posted on 11/17/2004 9:28:51 AM PST by narby
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To: KellyAdmirer

"... we're not just the local leftist nuts."

hell, no, they're all over the place, mostly in those ever-so-blue places


67 posted on 11/17/2004 9:29:57 AM PST by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

WAIT..... you forgot San Franpsycho! and Bizerkly...

*holds the door open*


68 posted on 11/17/2004 9:30:46 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: sheik yerbouty
I think they should demand that canada take them in. Them and all their flaky ideas.
69 posted on 11/17/2004 9:38:29 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: wardaddy; stainlessbanner

Northern libs talking about secession again.


70 posted on 11/17/2004 9:47:00 AM PST by bourbon
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To: Chode

Hey, Ithaca is not evil. I have a 12 gauge that is really sweet!


71 posted on 11/17/2004 9:47:21 AM PST by donmeaker (Why did the Romans cross the road? To keep the slaves from revolting again.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Just what CANADA needs...more highly taxed, mostly frozen, real estate occupied by whining losers.

...wish I'd saved that clever image of the North Korean flag as Ithaca emblem.

72 posted on 11/17/2004 9:48:14 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: bourbon

Great idea!! They could take the UN with them.


73 posted on 11/17/2004 9:49:44 AM PST by griswold3
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To: bourbon

they haven't the juevos.


when they go they can take their multi-generational ghettos with them from one Nirvana-in-their-minds to another.


74 posted on 11/17/2004 9:51:29 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: donmeaker; Chode
Hey, Ithaca is not evil. I have a 12 gauge that is really sweet!

The Ithaca Gun Company has not been located in Ithaca for years.

75 posted on 11/17/2004 9:51:55 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: donmeaker

make a nice 10er too!


76 posted on 11/17/2004 9:51:59 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: NativeNewYorker; Fixit
...wish I'd saved that clever image of the North Korean flag as Ithaca emblem.

The People's Republic of Ithaca

77 posted on 11/17/2004 9:53:58 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Zac79
Regardless, will someone please explain to me why they feel that a Hillary Clinton presidency would be an imminent threat to their welfare?

1) She has no leadership experience. As the leader of the most powerful nation, she would have nothing to guide her. She is riding on her husband's coattails. She has done nothing of significance as a senator.

2) She is a strong advocate of socialized health care. This is a proven disaster.

3) She is the ultimate divider. She attacks those who do not agree with her with all her powers and then some. Travelgate, Whitewater, Vast Right Wing conspiracy, etc.

4) She is solidly for anti-family measures. It-takes-a-village-to-raise-a-child, gay marriage, etc.

5) She supported Arafat.

78 posted on 11/17/2004 9:54:28 AM PST by kidd
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To: wardaddy

you're right about them not having the guts.

Besides, this is a settled question now. If any Blue State were ever to secede now, the Red States should march in and take over.


79 posted on 11/17/2004 9:55:09 AM PST by bourbon
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To: mewzilla
Here you go...

Harsh's email

Don't be too harsh on him.

80 posted on 11/17/2004 9:58:37 AM PST by Paine in the Neck
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