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It is hard to fight a group like the ACLU in a "free" society. They always make it sound like they have the moral high ground - and that the "other guy" undermines the Constitution. But it is actually the opposite; the ACLU undermines the Constitution and thus, America itself.

So what do we do?

[MadAnthony1776]

Deep sea diving with cement flippers comes to mind.

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get as many judges appointed who will toss their court challenges - they could never win with these issues at the ballot box, they use the courts.