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Uncertain Trumpet: Imperial Hubris is an alarming book.
National Review ^ | Sept. 27, 2004 | David Frum

Posted on 11/16/2004 5:34:42 PM PST by Unam Sanctam

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41 posted on 11/16/2004 6:55:49 PM PST by Mo1 (I'm back to hating Democrats .)
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To: Mo1

Interestingly, on page 220 of his "Through Our Enemies' Eyes - Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America", Anonymous (who was that masked man?) refers to Richard Clarke as an "arrogant ninny."


42 posted on 11/16/2004 6:56:04 PM PST by bagman
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To: Unam Sanctam

The Islamic spies in the CIA that wrote this book should be hunted down and shot for treason.


43 posted on 11/16/2004 6:57:41 PM PST by MCH
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To: Ramius

I think you're close to the truth. My impression of the book was that the author had worked with the Afghans during the Russian war and had gone native -- identified with the Taliban.

Scheuer has one good point -- we ought to read bin Laden's writings. Know the enemy.

Scheuer thinks that if we give in to bin Laden's demands -- roughly, abandon Israel and withdraw from the Middle East -- bin Laden will be satisfied and will not make further demands. Clearly 20th century European history is not Scheuer's strong point.


44 posted on 11/16/2004 7:04:36 PM PST by omega4412
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To: Elvis van Foster

Having NUKES didn't saves nearly 3,000 people on 9/11 and we aren't about to use them on the terrorists.....yet.


45 posted on 11/16/2004 7:06:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Howlin

Bookmark


46 posted on 11/16/2004 7:06:21 PM PST by AZamericonnie (They say I have ADD but they just don't understand.....oh look! A chicken!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Just more proof that GW Bush's entrance as our President at this critical time is indeed Divine Intervention.


47 posted on 11/16/2004 7:09:11 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Ramius
Stockholm Syndrome by Proxy.

Exactly.

First thing that came to mind as I read, "It would seem that the former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit would regard the actual capture of bin Laden as the most catastrophic possible defeat of all."

Clean this place out. Eject the Scheuers...and all who enable them. Before they can do any more damage.

48 posted on 11/16/2004 7:09:40 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping and I've bookmarked it.

Thank GOD that Sheuer ois out of the CIA and I hope that ALL of his like minded cohorts in the CIA,will be fumigated out of there,by Goss.This mentality was our downfall,on 9/11.

49 posted on 11/16/2004 7:10:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dog Gone

You're absolutely correct and thank GOD President Bush was re-elected!


50 posted on 11/16/2004 7:12:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: omega4412

Basically, Scheuer's argument is a windy updated "appeasement" apologia. We had these type of "wise guys" during the 30s and we will always have their likes with us. There will always be those who counsel seeking the path of least resistance and that lies in giving the lion enough victims so he doesn't turn on us later. We saw how well THAT approach worked before World War II. Any one who thinks Bin Laden would leave America alone after we've capitulated to all his demands should be locked up in an insane asylum, not hawking a book on the TV talk show circuit.


51 posted on 11/16/2004 7:14:46 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mo1

He's an anti-Semite and someone who thinks adopting fundamentalist Islam is cool. It makes you sick to the stomach learning we have people like this in high places in our intelligence agencies.


52 posted on 11/16/2004 7:16:14 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Howlin; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; blam; SunkenCiv; Dog; Dog Gone; Coop; Cap Huff

CIA definitely needs house cleaning!

Sen Bob Graham of Florida was on (Foxnews I think ) defending Porter Goss , the new CIA director. So seems like things are going well... if there are more like this guy, the exodus is just starting.....


53 posted on 11/16/2004 7:24:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I might expect that from Bob Nelson from Florida, but not Bob Graham.


54 posted on 11/16/2004 7:26:51 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Unam Sanctam

I think I will read his book.

He was there, and that gives him enough credibiliy as far as I'm concerned.

I want to hear everything he has to say.


55 posted on 11/16/2004 7:26:58 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Unam Sanctam
Reminds me of the scene in the movie In Harms Way where Admiral Broderick is trying to tell the press why Operation Skyhook isn't going to be easy and it will take lots of time and they all have to be patient and wars cant be defined by schedules...blah blah blah....

And Admiral 'Rock' Torrey tell the press....that Admiral Broderick is right about war and schedules only they aren't behind schedule they are ahead.....

Ole Broderick stands there with his...Broderick in his hand.... while the press rush right past him to get the real version of events from 'The Man'
56 posted on 11/16/2004 7:27:08 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: Dog Gone

He defended him very well, I was surprised.


57 posted on 11/16/2004 7:28:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

This is practically unbelievable!


58 posted on 11/16/2004 7:31:17 PM PST by meema
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To: JustDoItAlways

Yet look at how the media thinks Clarke and Scheuer are wonderful.


59 posted on 11/16/2004 7:31:23 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I hear the clinton library will need some restroom attendants, must be porcelain polishing proficient.


60 posted on 11/16/2004 7:35:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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