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Boy Scouts Banned on Bases!
WorldNetDaily ^ | Nov. 16, 2004 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 11/16/2004 8:21:23 AM PST by SeasideSparrow

Read and click link to contact Rumsfeld:

Boy Scouts banned on bases

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: November 16, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The American military cannot survive the challenges of the 21st century without the preparatory support of the Boy Scouts of America. Millions of our bravest heroes in uniform – thousands who have given their lives in every war since World War I – wore their first uniform as a Boy Scout. A U.S. Marine now in Iraq – who also was my Scoutmaster when I was growing up – once told me that he became a Marine because he had first been a Scout.

Apparently seeking the annihilation of our nation's defensive capacity along with its moral character, the American Civil Liberties Union announced Monday that U.S. military bases will no longer be able to sponsor Boy Scout troops. It seems that our nation's military leadership has broken wartime policy to settle with the terrorists in the ACLU.

It is the Boy Scout Oath to which the ACLU responded by filing legal claims against the U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the Chicago Board of Education in 1999. "On my honor," goes the Oath, "I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country, and to obey the Scout Law, to help other people at all times, to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight."

Following its new settlement with the ACLU, the Department of Defense will be sending word to American military bases worldwide that sponsorship of the Boy Scouts is strictly prohibited. Though Boy Scouts – primarily the children of service members – have long met on military bases in association with a base sponsor, the days of political correctness have brought that arrangement to an end. And this is the George W. Bush / Donald Rumsfeld Department of Defense that we're talking about.

Like an array of private organizations that, of necessity, have dealings with our nation's armed forces, the Boy Scouts adhere to beliefs and practices that fall outside the sanction of public policy. No one on our nation's military bases is coerced into supporting the Boy Scouts, though, no doubt, members of our armed forces hold the Scouts in much higher esteem than they do the ACLU.

It is true that Congress awarded a national charter – an honorary statement that Congress supports the patriotic, educational or scientific goals of an organization and that the organization is guaranteed rights to its name in perpetuity – to the Boy Scouts of America in 1916. Congress did this in full recognition of the Scouts' right to discriminate.

But it isn't as though membership in the Boy Scouts of America is restricted to evangelical Protestants only. The Boy Scouts are as ecumenical as organizations come. Among 29 religious groups that award patches to Scouts through the Religious Relationships Committee are Armenians, Baha'i, Baptist, Buddhist, Christian Science, Eastern Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Episcopal, Hindu, Islamic, Jewish, Lutheran, Maher Baba, Moravian, Mormon, Presbyterian, Quaker, Roman Catholic, United Methodist and Zoroastrian.

But the Boy Scouts do insist on belief in God. Over the years since the Boy Scouts of America was founded, several hundred atheists have been told that they could not serve in positions of Scout leadership. Is this inconsistent with the principles by which our nation's military and government operate?

Just because military bases sponsor Scout troops doesn't make those troops an extension of government. Thousands of police and fire departments, cities and schools also sponsor Boy Scout troops. The Boy Scouts remain a private organization – a partnership with government does not automatically render an organization public domain.

It's also worth noting that our nation's military itself administers an Oath of Military Service to new members of the armed forces, that, like the Presidential, Congressional, and Supreme Court Oaths of Office, concludes with the words, "So help me God." In fact, all high-ranking government officers must swear an oath in accordance with Section 3331 of Title V of the U.S. Code that includes that little invocation to the Almighty.

Further, military bases feature a vast array of religious options for the personnel and families who live and work there. In recent years, the nation has discussed the admission of Wiccan chaplains to the military, and Muslims are well represented in the chaplaincy despite the sensitive nature of our present war.

But the Department of Defense cannot expect to win wars abroad if it is capitulating to the demands of political correctness at home. Our armed forces must be aligned with the standards of character that make America worth fighting for.

Americans who care about our nation's moral condition and national security must contact the Department of Defense and tell them to stand up for the Boy Scouts. Send a comment to Secretary Rumsfeld – tell him that he must do everything possible to reverse Monday's settlement with the ACLU.

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Hans Zeiger is an Eagle Scout, president and founder of the Scout Honor Coalition, a student at Hillsdale College in Michigan, and author of a forthcoming book about the Boy Scouts in the culture war. His columns have been featured in the Seattle Times and other Internet websites.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; bias; boyscouts; bsa; dod; falsestory; firstamendment; hanszeiger; military; militarybases; no; notheyarenot; pentagon; rumsfeld; sloppyjournalism; worldnetjokedaily; wrong
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1 posted on 11/16/2004 8:21:23 AM PST by SeasideSparrow
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To: SeasideSparrow

ACLU= anti-Christian Lawyers Union


2 posted on 11/16/2004 8:26:29 AM PST by WritableSpace
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To: stockpirate; Vn_survivor_67-68; Travis McGee
Following its new settlement with the ACLU, the Department of Defense will be sending word to American military bases worldwide that sponsorship of the Boy Scouts is strictly prohibited.

FYI

3 posted on 11/16/2004 8:27:45 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: SeasideSparrow
Boy Scouts Banned on Bases!

Ummm. No.

While I disagree with what was actually done, this headline is wrong too.

4 posted on 11/16/2004 8:30:06 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
"the Department of Defense will be sending word to American military bases worldwide that sponsorship of the Boy Scouts is strictly prohibited."

I doubt this is true. If it is, look for Senator Helms...I mean Senator Coburn to force the issue and have the policy reversed, by law if necessary.

5 posted on 11/16/2004 8:34:49 AM PST by Meldrim
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To: Meldrim

Eagle Scout bump.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 8:37:53 AM PST by Callahan
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You have got to be Shi*ing me!


7 posted on 11/16/2004 8:39:24 AM PST by stockpirate (Tagline is hung over from the election parties.)
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To: SeasideSparrow
But the Boy Scouts do insist on belief in God.

And the ACLU insists on rejection of God. The ACLU has the lawyers. The ACLU wins with the acquiescence of the DOD. Pathetic.

8 posted on 11/16/2004 8:44:32 AM PST by nosofar
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To: Meldrim

The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) needs enabling legislation anyway....like the AMERICAN Red Cross has (not the International Red Cross - a different, un-American organization).


9 posted on 11/16/2004 8:45:23 AM PST by NetValue (Trust the cobra before you trust the liberal.)
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To: SeasideSparrow
I have three sons in Scouts. One is an Eagle and a member of a crew. Two are advancing through the ranks and will become Eagle in a few years. At a recent Scout confab the number of Eagles who are now serving in the military were announced. It was a sizable list. It made me really proud. But, to know at least five young men personally is an inspiration.

There are a lot of selfless people in Scouting who are doing this country a tremendous service. They are preparing today for tomorrow's leaders. These young men they are training are the one's who are making it possible for those ACLU lawyers to put their feet up on their mahogany desks and work without fear that an 'insurgent' will bust through their doors and kill them.

Who is it who has secured our freedom? A sniveling ACLU lawyer? Or, the young man who puts his life on hold and on the line for us?

10 posted on 11/16/2004 8:46:56 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: SeasideSparrow

"...the American Civil Liberties Union announced Monday..."

The ACLU is now dictating to our military what they can and can't do? Perhaps it's time the military paid a visit to ACLU headquarters...with some Abrams tanks! This subversive organization of traitors has existed too long. And please, no crappola about all the good things they've done. BAH!


11 posted on 11/16/2004 8:50:15 AM PST by beelzepug (tag not to be removed under penalty of law except by consumer.)
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To: SeasideSparrow
The American military cannot survive the challenges of the 21st century without the preparatory support of the Boy Scouts of America.

Unmitigated BULLSQUEEZE!!!!

I was a Boy Scout, and I served in the US Army.

While the BSA is an admirable organization, and DOES teach young men how to be good, productive, patriotic citizens; the US Armed Forces would get along just fine without any assistance from the Scouts.

Self-serving tripe.

12 posted on 11/16/2004 8:50:37 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: everyone

Those who have kept up with the ACLU's efforts to hinder the American freedoms of the Boy Scouts know this is their way of punishing the group for refusing to allow gay scout masters.

The Boy Scouts as an organization needs decent people's support and I, for one, will be donating to their organization as part of my Christmas giving this year.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 8:54:15 AM PST by SeasideSparrow
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To: lepton

Ok, so if the story is in error, what did they do?


14 posted on 11/16/2004 8:56:33 AM PST by doublecansiter
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To: everyone

The WND story is absolutely true and gives a link for those wanting to contact the Pentagon in protest.


15 posted on 11/16/2004 8:59:27 AM PST by SeasideSparrow
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To: SeasideSparrow

How long before chaplains and rabbis are banned from the military? How long before praying on the battlefield illegal?


16 posted on 11/16/2004 9:00:05 AM PST by hershey
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To: lepton
So are scouts still able to stay on military bases while traveling? Reading this it appears that only actual troop sponsorship is prohibited, which is bad enough. It would be terrible if scout groups were not able to stay overnight on military installations while traveling.
17 posted on 11/16/2004 9:01:12 AM PST by Gerasimov (John Kerry just got his SECOND dishonorable discharge.)
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To: SeasideSparrow
Memo to GWB:

Conservatives did not elect you to roll over for the ACLU and sell out the Boy Scouts.

18 posted on 11/16/2004 9:03:00 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: SeasideSparrow

Screw the ACLU. They are destroying what makes America great, piece by bloody piece.

Support Boy Scouts, pledge to the FOS (friends of scouting) and volunteer to serve on the district and council committees. This is the best way to strike back.


19 posted on 11/16/2004 9:04:01 AM PST by Scales (Earth First, we will mine the other planets later)
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To: Gerasimov
They will get around this by having officer or non com organizations on base serve as sponsors. BTW how does that jive with having military chaplains?
20 posted on 11/16/2004 9:06:26 AM PST by Scales (Earth First, we will mine the other planets later)
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