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BETTER DEAD THAN RED
Portland Mercury ^ | 11-11-04 | Dan Savage

Posted on 11/16/2004 7:20:09 AM PST by white trash redneck

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To: white trash redneck
Woo, viperous venom alert.

But actually a pretty frank and on-the-spot article, because the writer actually is vile enough to let it all show beneath the nicey-nicey "compassionate liberal" mask.

Personally, I prefer my opponents up-front where I can see them, instead of hiding behind hypocrisy.

Let the games begin.

21 posted on 11/16/2004 7:36:30 AM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: white trash redneck
John Kerry won every city with a population above 500,000.

I doubt kerry won Dallas or Houston. I know for sure that Dallas County and Harris County were red, and Dallas and Houston encompass the majority of those two counties.

22 posted on 11/16/2004 7:36:51 AM PST by KMG365
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To: DBrow
Oh, they could import food from overseas, Canada, Cuba, Brazil, but the cost would be terrible.

Which is why they use regulations to increase the price of domestically produced food. Rich liberals are huge investors in corporate food production abroad. They don't intend to lose money.

23 posted on 11/16/2004 7:37:19 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by politics.)
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To: white trash redneck
Citizens of the Urban Archipelago reject heartland "values"

Urban Achipelago? I thought of it as great plains of reason surrounding a few festering disease ridden urban swamps.

24 posted on 11/16/2004 7:37:21 AM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: white trash redneck

I hope the Dems take his advice! What a lunatic? Does the "Sore Loserman" title still apply?


25 posted on 11/16/2004 7:37:50 AM PST by buddyholly (4 more years!!! 4 more years!!!)
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To: white trash redneck
Dan Savage sounds like some Homosexual Porn Star!
27 posted on 11/16/2004 7:40:12 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: white trash redneck
Let them have the shitholes, the Oklahomas, Wyomings, and Alabamas. We'll take Manhattan.

Hey... isn't this a line in the 'Green Acres' theme-song?

28 posted on 11/16/2004 7:41:12 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: white trash redneck
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red counties in blue (and red) states pay the lions share of that state's federal taxes. blue counties in blue (and red) states receive the lions share of that state's federal grants. get the hell out of our cities, punks.

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29 posted on 11/16/2004 7:41:58 AM PST by phxaz (w: the ppl who elected you want berger prosecuted.)
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To: white trash redneck

If I said what I really think about Dan Savage, I'd be banned from this site for life.


30 posted on 11/16/2004 7:44:03 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: alloysteel

"If a kid in a red state finds his daddy's handgun and blows his head off, we'll feel terrible (we're like that), but we'll try to look on the bright side: At least he won't grow up to vote like his dad."

Oh this is a real gem.


31 posted on 11/16/2004 7:44:31 AM PST by Possible_Spam
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To: white trash redneck

PURPLE KOOL-AID AMERICA.....

32 posted on 11/16/2004 7:44:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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To: white trash redneck; wideawake
So *that's* who Dan Savage is. What a viper.

What this pathetic doorknob licker doesn't realize is that people from the suburbs *are* moving back to the cities as they near retirement. They no longer have children at home (so their kids won't be subjected to the hellholes of inner city public schools), but they do like the lofts, the theater districts, the access to medical centers.

However, they'll still vote Republican, and better yet, they'll probably start resurrecting almost-defunct urban Republican party townships.

The suburbs are where you raise your children. The cities may well become retirement "meccas." And there are a LOT of older people out there.

33 posted on 11/16/2004 7:45:05 AM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: white trash redneck
They--rural, red-state voters, the denizens of the exurbs--are not real Americans. They are rubes, fools, and hate-mongers.

Yes, Democrats, please scream this from the rooftops.

34 posted on 11/16/2004 7:45:30 AM PST by FourPeas (By gnawing through a dike, even a rat may drown a nation. ~Edmund Burke)
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To: white trash redneck

Now I recognize this as a rant but the author clearly hasn't thought any of this through.

Populations in urban areas are fueled by immigrants and the urban poor. Sure, plenty of upper and middle class people live in cities but they don't match the birth rate of immigrants and the poor.

Urban populations are also swelled by young people looking for excitement and career advantages. Unfortunately, once the excitement wanes and the careers are mature, these same people flood into the suburbs and exurbs to raise their kids.

The Internet means that living in a city no longer necessary for many and they are happy to opt out of the urban experience. The author seems unaware of this trend that is changing small town America.

All in all, we can get along without them more easily than they get along without us.


35 posted on 11/16/2004 7:45:40 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: Carry_Okie

phx az.. over 500,000 pop.. red.


36 posted on 11/16/2004 7:45:46 AM PST by phxaz (w: the ppl who elected you want berger prosecuted.)
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To: white trash redneck

This doesn't sound half bad to me. One of the reasons Rove nailed it this year was his ability to reach out to suburbs and exurbs, the hottest growing areas. If these guys draw their lines at the city limits, we'll continue to waste em. And if they really stopped nosing around in the business of rural and exurban Americans, they might even get a few more votes in those areas!


37 posted on 11/16/2004 7:45:56 AM PST by PianoMan (Top priority for the new government - STOP SPECTER)
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To: TexasCajun

Your HALF RIGHT.....


38 posted on 11/16/2004 7:46:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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To: white trash redneck

Yes, focus on the cities. Those financially distressed cities that are rapidly losing population to the surrounding suburbs and exurbs. It's no accident that there has been a net population shift from blue to red states since the 1990 census. The red states tend to have better government. I hope the RATS take ideas like this seriously. We may be looking at another 20+ years of Republican presidents if they do.


39 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:17 AM PST by stremba
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To: phxaz
phx az.. over 500,000 pop.. red.

Good. Hopefully the tide of illegals doesn't change that.

40 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:26 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by politics.)
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