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THE FCC WANTS TO REGULATE YOUR COMPUTER
Pastabagel.com ^

Posted on 11/16/2004 7:13:18 AM PST by Without Barbarians

...HDTV and digital television is simply a way for the U.S. government to transfer enormous sums of money from the pockets of U.S. consumers to Japanese electronics manufacturers in gratitude for all that lobby money they threw around in the 1980’s. Now that personal computers are recognized as perfectly suitable HDTV alternatives, Congress is trying to close the loop. The intention of the part of the FCC is to make sure that money for TV hardware flows to Asia, not to Redmond, or Cupertino. Of course, they will fail.

That the FCC thinks it can regulate the hardware you put in your computer reflects the government’s misunderstanding of the high tech hardware business in the 21st century. Just as open source software has cut through all of the corporate, copyright, and regulatory red tape protecting the old guard firms of the 80s, grey market and underground hardware manufacturers are doing the same. All those people who hack their XBoxes, Playstations, TiVOs, and satellite receivers aren’t building their own circuits on breadboards. They’re buying mod chips from micro-manufacturers, the same ones who will supply HDTV receiver add-on cards that ignore the broadcast flag (like this one).

The FCC can’t police the underground any better than the FBI can. What stupid, misguided regulations like this only accomplish is to drive more respectable, law-abiding citizens into the underground to get those things it is reasonable for them to want. And that’s hurts everyone...

Read the entire article here.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; Technical
KEYWORDS: fcc; freespeech; regulation

1 posted on 11/16/2004 7:13:18 AM PST by Without Barbarians
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To: Without Barbarians

Bump for later.


2 posted on 11/16/2004 7:14:41 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Without Barbarians

The FCC should know better than to challenge the computer world.


3 posted on 11/16/2004 7:15:47 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: Without Barbarians

The FCC should stick to nipples and naughty words.


4 posted on 11/16/2004 7:17:54 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Without Barbarians

I LOVE my HDTV, it's awesome, albeit if my old TV hadn't burned out I would still be watching it.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 7:22:12 AM PST by Mister Baredog ((DO IT NOW, if you haven't put up a flag on your FR homepage yet,PLEASE))
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To: Without Barbarians
Saw this comment on Slashdot (Where this story is also being vigorously discussed.) and thought it was appropriate:

The Cure for 1984 is 1776

6 posted on 11/16/2004 7:22:30 AM PST by JOAT
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To: Without Barbarians

Damn, I've got one PC recording HDTV now and am thinking about a second one. Then I can record 2 shows at once but more importantly, wait about 15 minutes after a show starts and then watch it without commercials.

HDTV IS all its cracked up to be. Had mine for 3 years now.


7 posted on 11/16/2004 7:42:44 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: Without Barbarians
That the FCC thinks it can regulate the hardware you put in your computer

Why does Microsoft's XP (and newer) activation process come to mind?

8 posted on 11/16/2004 7:50:40 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: Allen In So Cal

I just joined the HDTV bandwagon in June. 42 inches of plasmatic joy.


9 posted on 11/16/2004 8:00:10 AM PST by Independentamerican (Independent Junior at the University of MD)
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To: Without Barbarians
All those people who hack their XBoxes, Playstations, TiVOs, and satellite receivers aren’t building their own circuits on breadboards. They’re buying mod chips from micro-manufacturers, the same ones who will supply HDTV receiver add-on cards that ignore the broadcast flag (like this one).

The FCC can’t police the underground any better than the FBI can. What stupid, misguided regulations like this only accomplish is to drive more respectable, law-abiding citizens into the underground to get those things it is reasonable for them to want. And that’s hurts everyone...

Heh. This person is what, 19 or so?

I just ask because this is the sort of silliness you hear from someone (like a Stern fan, for instance) that doesn’t really understand what he’s talking about.

Let’s take a moment to remember Bill Cheek. He went by the handle “Dr. Rigormortis.” At one time he published a monthly newsletter called “The 11 Meter Times and Journal.”

I believe he had been a (U.S.) Marine electronics muckety-muck. All his newsletters did was discuss different ways to clean up linear amplifiers and how to perform different modifications on CB radios.

So how does that relate to the FCC? Well, they’re the ones that shut him down (ultimately). You see, it is ILLEGAL to posses a modified CB radio. Illegal to use, illegal to modify, illegal to have. It is illegal to have a linear that can transmit “clean” on 11m. It is illegal to have a device that can transmit on the “funny channels.”

And, not only is it illegal to have those devices – it is illegal (their claim) to produce, distribute, or possess, material that describes or discusses such things.

Step one is when the FCC shows up at your shop (or home) with a couple of vans, a sheriff’s deputy, and a warrant. Then they proceed to seize all the items related to your illegal activities.

He fought that for the longest time then finally decided to switch to scanner modifications.

That was round two, with the FCC hounding him for the longest time over that. I recall reading that early on he published a newsletter related to unlocking blocked cell phone frequencies. I recall that there were seizures related to that.

Then he developed one of the first systems to follow trunked radio systems. I recall that there were seizures and legal action related to that.

Keep in mind that unlocking cell frequencies in certain scanners (or “opening up” bands in 2 meter+ handheld units) is a very simple modification – but it is ILLEGAL to possess that modified gear.

Ultimately he wrote a couple of books and I recall that they were mainly modifications like weird squelch-related mods or installing chips to increase the number of stored frequencies.… stuff like that. No more opening up blocked frequencies.

Towards the end he changed his approach and was operating under a “medical necessity” argument. His claim was that he had a medical necessity to investigate the properties of any radiated signal that passed through him, his home, or his property.

He had the right to investigate power level, frequency, mode of transmission, and information/data being carried on that radiated signal.

Don’t know how the story ends though. At some point he was diagnosed with lung cancer and dug in pretty quickly after his diagnosis.

So just be careful what you read on the internet because a lot of these dopes don’t have a clue. The FCC (and others) WILL, CAN, and DO, fine, seize equipment, arrest, and charge for a variety of things including possession of modified equipment. For more interesting semi-related reading on the subject, you can go here: Bill Cheek's Last Stand.

10 posted on 11/16/2004 8:17:36 AM PST by Who dat?
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To: Who dat?

How does the example of bill cheek disprove the point of the article? Cheek is the previous generations mod chip mfg'er.

The difference is that while the feds went after people like cheek (and mod chippers under the DMCA, i.e. the distributors), the FCC wants to go after you, the end user. You are not permitted to receive unencrypted hdtv signal (according to them) into your computer, regardless of how you did it. If this is the rule, then to regulate this they have to monitor you.

And the article doesn't disagree that the FCC will try to enforce its rules, but communicates that the enforcement will involve an unacceptable intrusion into our privacy.


11 posted on 11/16/2004 8:35:09 AM PST by Without Barbarians
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To: Without Barbarians
FCC wants to go after you, the end user. You are not permitted to receive unencrypted hdtv signal (according to them) into your computer, regardless of how you did it. If this is the rule, then to regulate this they have to monitor you.

“FCC wants to…” without ever understanding that the FCC (other entities are brought on board from time to time too) have *been* doing just that for a very long time.

The article seems to imply that the writer doesn’t understand that the FCC has a long and established record of monitoring such things. They do, routinely, go after the end user.

Now granted, there may be regional differences in how they prioritize what/who they go after. Oakland/Berkeley is a prime example of a zoo. They constantly have people interfering with repeaters, transmitting without identifying the callsign, running off band – bunch of stuff. Big free-for-all there.

They evidently concentrate their resources more on people interfering with police, fire, and other emergency services and air. BUT – anytime they take a notion they can take a break from that and go after anyone else they want. They could decide to take a week off and just concentrate on people with scanners that illegally receive cell frequencies, for instance. I find it interesting that people are surprised by that.

12 posted on 11/16/2004 9:35:58 AM PST by Who dat?
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To: TommyDale
'Challenge' the computer world? They already control the computer world. Go ahead, open up your machine and count the FCC labels. Just about anything that produces RF has to have FCC certification.
The comparing their efforts to mod chips in game systems is a non starter. Mod chips don't use RF oscillators and hence the FCC could no care less about them.

For anyone who is up in arms about what the FCC does they should take a step back and realize that the reason their TV and their cell phone work is because the FCC works to prevent radio interference. They certify computers and computer cases along with just about every household electronic product to be sure those devices are no spitting out more than their allowed share of RF 'noise'. Anyone remember when turning on a vacumcleaner caused your TV picture to wash out? The FCC works to eliminate stuff like that.
13 posted on 11/16/2004 10:45:41 AM PST by TalonDJ
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