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1 posted on 11/16/2004 7:01:14 AM PST by areafiftyone
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Anybody got a link to the video? I have leftists to torment with it!


45 posted on 11/16/2004 7:23:54 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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Several comments:

1. A good defense lawyer would ask for the proof that the guy wasn't "dead" before the final shot.

2. Fox News, in discussing this story last night, showed film of a Marine who was killed a block away from the mosque by a booby-trapped "dead" insurgent. These guys have been fighting this insanity for a week.


46 posted on 11/16/2004 7:24:03 AM PST by jackbill
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Yeah, this is all we need, loss of morale among our troops. I'm ready to launch protests outside local stations urging them to drop MSM.


62 posted on 11/16/2004 7:36:12 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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I start to post, and I get so damn mad I forget what I wanted to say. I guess $crew Kevin Sites and the MSM will have to do, until I come up with something that sounds profound.


66 posted on 11/16/2004 7:39:39 AM PST by Jarhead1957 (Semper Fi)
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The standard media response should be:

"Let me read your statements of condemnation when you learned John Kerry shot a Fleeing, Wounded, N.Korean BOY in the BACK"

72 posted on 11/16/2004 7:44:13 AM PST by TexasCajun
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""I would have shot the insurgent too. Two shots to the head," said Sergeant Nicholas Graham, 24, of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. "You can't trust these people. He should not be investigated. He did nothing wrong." "

$ht happens. I'm sure I would have done the same thing under the circumstances. Anyone else?

77 posted on 11/16/2004 7:45:50 AM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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Quite honestly, if he was just shooting at me moments ago and I walked into the room with him wounded, I'd finish him off too. This is part of war. Don't put the fear of lawyers on the troops. Their job is hard enough.


80 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:59 AM PST by rudypoot (We, the american people, made it clear where we stand. We stand with Bush.)
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From photog Kevin Sites own blog:

The Marines are operating with liberal rules of engagement.

"Everything to the west is weapons free," radios Staff Sgt. Sam Mortimer of Seattle, Washington. Weapons Free means the marines can shoot whatever they see -- it's all considered hostile.

...so what's the problem? The enemy is dead, our boy is alive to come back home. On to Mosul.

83 posted on 11/16/2004 7:51:48 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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Didn't John Kerry do this same thing...shoot an unarmed fleeing kid?? He got an acccomodation.....this guy will get a court martial. This pressitude needs to be shipped home....asap.


88 posted on 11/16/2004 7:53:37 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Time to frag the imbedded reporters.


123 posted on 11/16/2004 8:12:26 AM PST by freepy smurf (Supreme Solar Smurf)
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Remember how they tried to ruin Col. West last year and how public outrage helped prevent it. Make sure Washington/Pentagon hear from the American Street. ____ the Arab alley.
129 posted on 11/16/2004 8:18:18 AM PST by jaykay
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"You can't trust these people. He should not be investigated. He did nothing wrong."

Right on. How best can we show our support for this young man?

130 posted on 11/16/2004 8:18:25 AM PST by BunnySlippers (George W. Bush is our president ... Get over it!)
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The solution is simple, use the same tactic General Santa Anna did at the Alamo. Take no prisoners. Or perhaps, take no reporters.


133 posted on 11/16/2004 8:21:00 AM PST by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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Got to thank Glen Beck for playing more of the recording this morning. Why was there a recording, and why is that reporter bucking for the Pulitzer when he should be fired? War isn't suitable for reality TV and it isn't a morality play. The clip being heard a thousand times an hour on the news shows is a deliberate edit to make it sound like something else.


144 posted on 11/16/2004 8:28:25 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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This is WAR, not a courtroom in an American city.
A terrorist insurgent enemy in the heat of battle
is NOT innocent until proven guilty.
---That's about as "pithy" as i can make it.


151 posted on 11/16/2004 8:34:30 AM PST by willyboyishere
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The U.S. military has been embarrassed by scandals in Iraq

That's a matter of opinion. As a vet I'm not one bit embarassed to call these kids my own.
Embarassed is a feeling you have to express, it cannot be projected from outside. Otherwise Madonna would have been embarassed long long ago.

153 posted on 11/16/2004 8:35:21 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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What's the big deal? The jihadi got sent to his virgins. Isn't that what he wanted in the first place?
161 posted on 11/16/2004 8:39:02 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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"...Kevin Sites said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, .... Sites said the wounded had been left for others to pick up."

"A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be close to death, Sites said."

Is Sites with both groups of Marines???

If so, why didn't Sites inform the second Marines about the wounded insurgents BEFORE they went into the mosque????

Why does Sites let the second group of Marines go in thinking these are new insurgents when he KNOWS that they are not?

Seems like criminal negligence on the part of Sites to know there were wounded in the mosque without telling the Marines.

170 posted on 11/16/2004 8:49:22 AM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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If they punish this young marine there will be hell to pay for the embedded reporters.


171 posted on 11/16/2004 8:49:58 AM PST by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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If the terrorist was dead the soldier is guilty on nothing. If the terrorist was pretending to be dead the soldier killed a terrorist that had not surrendered and he is guilty of nothing. If the terrorist had surrendered and the marines knew this we have a problem. Perhaps the injured Iraqi was not capable of making his wish to surrender known. If this is the case he has become a victim of the rules of the battle field. That Marines job is to kill the enemy and protect his buddies within the rules of war. It is not his responsibility to put himself at risk to determine if the terrorist was dead, playing dead, or injured. Up to the moment that it is clear the terrorist is surrendering (that did not happen according to reports) he was an enemy combatant and subject to dying in battle as he did.
177 posted on 11/16/2004 8:55:20 AM PST by cpdiii
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