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To: smcmike

Despite your attempts to blur distinctions with hyperbole, the simple fact is you are refusing to entertain a distinct possibility. That is, that islam is inherently antagonistic (murderously so) to anything that is not islam.

As to my logic...your disapproval of it does not invalidate it. You have already answered the one question that catagorically proves you are incapable of taking an objective view. I learned long ago not to waste time arguing with people whose ideas and philosophies are so fuzzy and nebulous that they're unable to recognize if and when they are wrong.

That's not to say that you are wrong; just that you would be unable to recognize it if you were.

Your anecdotes about "good" moslems in no way invalidates the proposition that those "good" moslems are engaged in some very real cognitive dissonance where their religion is concerned. As one Rachel Lipkin recently said on arab television " There is no such thing as a good moslem. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they aren't good people; just that there is no such thing as a good moslem."

While the proposition of wiping out huge swaths of humanity is absurd, there is a distinct possibility that Ann Coulter's suggestion isn't.


77 posted on 11/18/2004 10:29:39 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

Ah, I see your argument now.

The fact that you accuse ME of hyperbole when I was arguing against a fellow who refered to Muslims as Muzzle-ems is a little bit ironic though.

And I agree completely that I am incapable of taking an objective view on this, that is kind of what my last post was all about. Of course, I also believe you are incapable of taking an objective view on it. We are only human. Subjective views are often valid however, so I won't hold that against you.

If the statement I am dealing with is "Islam is inherently antagonistic (muderously so) to anything that is not Islam," then you are right, I was engaged in a bit of hyperbole. That is certainly something that can be argued, though I still disagree with it (though not as violently).

The problem is that this argument still judges the vast majority of the religion by the acts of a few. Also, if the average Arab on the street has a problem with the US, that does not necessarily prove that Islam is to blame: they are mostly upset about Isreal (not that I am proposing we give in there), and now Iraq. The key, as I said before, is NOT to try and "convert" them away from Islam. It is to "corrupt" Islam with some nice western values, like democracy, human rights and capitalism.


78 posted on 11/19/2004 7:15:31 AM PST by smcmike
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