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Islamist wave sweeps Kuwait; Piety on the march
arabtimes ^ | 16th Nov 2004 | arabtimes

Posted on 11/15/2004 1:10:16 PM PST by mdittmar

KUWAIT (RTRS): At a Kuwaiti hotel Sheikh Ali Abu al-Hassan holds an audience spellbound with his talk about “the pleasures of heaven”, a paradise where true Muslims will enjoy virgins, eternal bliss and bounty. Down the road at Kuwait’s university, women and men are brought down to earth with the reality of life in the country. They are segregated to prevent them from “sin”. Islamist protests in Kuwait have forced the government to ban pop concerts, while at hospitals devout women surgeons are refusing to operate on men saying it is religiously forbidden for them to see their genitals.

In the past, men and women mingled and dated in Kuwait. The country had mixed beach clubs for nationals. No longer. Most now have separate swimming days for women and men. Like other Gulf states, Kuwait is witnessing a rising tide of fanatical Islam. More and more women wear the veil and more men grow beards to display their religious fervour. Islamist extremism indoctrinated by the Sunni Salafi and Wahhabi movements is spreading from Saudi Arabia to neighbouring Kuwait, influencing its youth and affecting all aspects of life. Many Kuwaitis, like other Arabs, denounce the United States and its allies for backing “corrupt” rulers and what they see as Washington’s war against Islam and plans to control their region’s oil wealth.

“Kuwait was a relaxed place 30 years ago. If people choose to be more Islamist you can hardly stop them from doing that,” said a Western diplomat with long experience of the country. “There is a significant number of people who believe in the (Muslim) fundamentalist approach. There is also a significant number of people who hate the Americans and Europeans,” he said. Other diplomats point to an alarming rise of sympathy among young Kuwaitis for al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. The Islamists’ won their foothold in Kuwaiti society through schools and universities. That served as a springboard to more influential posts and eventually to Parliament from where they are now imposing their views through the law making process.

“They brainwash children at a young age. Dancing is banned, concerts are banned, we’re heading to dark times. Anything pleasurable is deemed un-Islamic and immoral,” said Leila Othman, a liberal Kuwaiti writer. “I am sad. We lived golden days in Kuwait in the past. The Kuwait I lived in is not the one I can identify with now.” Othman, most of whose books are banned because of their progresssive ideas, has her own experience of the Islamic transformation. “I have a daughter who is veiled, she belongs to the salafis. My son is a religious extremist. This pains me because at home we didn’t have this zealousness. It was the school and university. These were the dens of indoctrination. Our children regressed,” she said.

The Islamists pushed through Parliament a law that forced universities to segregate the sexes, causing tremendous inconvenience for faculties which did not have the staff to meet the demands of double classrooms. One of the solutions was that girls would sit in class in front of a screen, listening via a microphone to a male professor lecturing boys in another room. The girls would take notes and ask questions via the screen. “This segregation led to chaos. It has no benefit at all and won’t change things. What was so bad when we had boys with us in the same room? Nothing happened. They used to sit on one side and us on the other,” said Huda Yahya, a 22-year-old chemical engineer.

But for female pupils who believe in strict Islamist tenets segregation is demanded by sharia law which forbids unrelated women and men from mixing. “There is danger when classrooms are mixed that boys and girls would become distracted and their minds would wander to lustful thoughts. It could lead to sin,” said Abeer Al-Onaizi, 19, a mechanical engineering student. “It is wrong to be in the same room. This is one thousand times better,” said Mona Al-Ajami, a 21-year-old student. Academics say radical change did not happen overnight. “The change did not come suddenly,” said Seham al-Furaih, a professor of Arabic literature for 20 years.

“The university is the mirror of society. While teaching I saw the number of my students wearing the veil growing steadily. The number increased more with every and each term. Now I can count the girls who are not veiled in my class,” she said. Academics questioned the wisdom of separating men and women in classrooms when in the workplace they would have to mix. “Women have always worked with men. Taking a decision to separate them at university is contradictory,” Furaih added. Kuwaiti liberals accuse the government, a leading US ally, of capitulating to Islamist demands, citing the recent banning of the Arabic pop show “Star Academy” in response to protests by Islamists who denounced it “indecent and immoral”.

As in other Gulf states, some of Kuwait’s elite lead a quasi-Western lifestyle. They buy Western clothes and have parties and discos at home. “The constricting religious atmosphere is generating frustration and leading the young to live two kind of lives — an underground hedonistic one or another obsessively religious life,” Othman said. “All the Arab world is looking for salvation from the grip of these religious tentacles that have spread everywhere. This is a catastrophe. How many years would it take us to break free of this? It is a tragedy,” she added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 3000dead; 911; antichristian; antisemitic; barbarism; beslan; deathcult; hatred; islam; jihad; kuwait; militarythreat; murderousmuslims; pedophiles; rapists; religionofhate
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"Now I can count the girls who are not veiled in my class,” she said.

Lovely,just lovely..

1 posted on 11/15/2004 1:10:17 PM PST by mdittmar
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There really is no good reason to keep these people around.

The human race would be better off without them.

2 posted on 11/15/2004 1:11:55 PM PST by Rome2000 (Democrats are perverted socialist crooks)
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To: mdittmar
Talk about enjoying virgins in the 'afterlife' probably sounds like a great place if all they can have in this life is maybe a glimpse of the bridge of some woman's nose!

Those people are suckers to fall for that crap!

3 posted on 11/15/2004 1:14:19 PM PST by NoClones
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Uh-oh, better add Kuwait to *the list*. Islam, The Cult of Death™ needs to be eliminated from the earth.


4 posted on 11/15/2004 1:14:31 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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what an ignorant, primitive, barbaric useless religion - I am amazed at their own ignorance, to think that the pleasures of the physical on earth are to be shunned but will be standard everyday living in heaven...what a bunch of idiotic fools.


5 posted on 11/15/2004 1:14:54 PM PST by michaelbfree
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To: mdittmar

We need to get to the root of the problem and
start culling the immams that put forth this
bull.

You can't stamp out beliefs but you can
start taking out the source.

This is exactly how the Taliban started.


6 posted on 11/15/2004 1:19:01 PM PST by konaice
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To: mdittmar
They are segregated to prevent them from “sin”.

They are segregated because the men are weak. They dress their women all in black. Make them hide their faces and cover every inch of their bodies because the men are so weak they are afraid of being tempted.

The beat their women and make them subservient in order to make them feel powerful.

What a bunch of wimpy cowards Arab men are.
7 posted on 11/15/2004 1:19:45 PM PST by BMC1
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Obviously Muslim men cannot be trusted to control themselves at the sight of female flesh. Every Muslim man suppresses the physicality of "his" women because he knows that every other Muslim man would like to rape them.


8 posted on 11/15/2004 1:23:19 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: BMC1
Would the islamofacist women also prefer to have "72 virgins"?

And wouldn't that be rather disappointing for them?

Just a thought.
9 posted on 11/15/2004 1:25:04 PM PST by BubbaTex (Long time lurker)
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No, I think the women would prefer they were still virgins and living in another country.


10 posted on 11/15/2004 1:29:43 PM PST by BMC1
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To: mdittmar
Notice that the Islamists, Communists, and Liberals (sorry for the repetition) focus on the young people.

Infiltrate the education system with your "ideas" and watch how quickly your society changes.

11 posted on 11/15/2004 1:29:59 PM PST by EA_Man
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To: mdittmar

The world is going crazy. Only the U.S. and a precious few other countries have retained some sanity.


12 posted on 11/15/2004 1:32:37 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Sam the Sham

"Obviously Muslim men cannot be trusted to control themselves at the sight of female flesh. Every Muslim man suppresses the physicality of "his" women because he knows that every other Muslim man would like to rape them."

Actually, they insist that the lack of impulse control belongs to the women. Thus, they must control women lest they attempt to corrupt the men. To a muslim, every woman is but seconds away from being a wanton whore who'll entice men into raping her. You correctly state that the problem is with the men, but damned if they'll ever admit it.


13 posted on 11/15/2004 1:40:28 PM PST by MonaMars
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To bad they can't listen to their own Arab media talk about how absurd this kind of thing is.

Scrap This Bizarre Plan (Segregation of Female Pharmacists in Saudi Arabia)

14 posted on 11/15/2004 2:16:42 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Bush received 51% of the popular vote, more than Bill Clinton ever did. SO THERE!)
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Do you know why muslim men are so excited about virgins?

Because virgins won't realize how terribly inadequate muslim men are in the sack!

15 posted on 11/15/2004 2:23:15 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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They're misreading the koran,it's "one 72 year old virgin".

Ha!

16 posted on 11/15/2004 2:28:14 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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The reason Islam is such a disaster is because it teaches you get to God through works of the flesh, not through the gift of salvation. Only by the Spirit, can man be lead and guided into all truth.

2 Corinthians 3
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
17 posted on 11/15/2004 2:52:08 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.)
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>>They are segregated to prevent them from “sin”.>>

Pregnancy rate=zero.
Abortion rate=zero.
STD rate=zero.
Welfare rate=zero.

There's something to sin.


18 posted on 11/15/2004 3:50:37 PM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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Why American Lefties prefer the sick culture of Islam over a Christian culture is beyond me. The first is stultifying in the extreme and the second is liberating to a degree unheard of in this otherwise sick world.

Instead, they viciously attack Christian culture while simultaneously demand we tolerate the Muslim culture.

19 posted on 11/15/2004 4:17:02 PM PST by Gritty ("As long as Democrats stay on the wrong side of the guns’n’God issues they will decline-Mark Steyn)
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To: Righter-than-Rush

Future=zero

20 posted on 11/15/2004 4:17:22 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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