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Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory
BBC News Online Magazine ^ | 11/13/2004 | Jonathan Duffy

Posted on 11/15/2004 12:28:11 PM PST by Jack Black

Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory

By Jonathan Duffy BBC News Online Magazine

The Bilderberg group, an elite coterie of Western thinkers and power-brokers, has been accused of fixing the fate of the world behind closed doors. As the organisation marks its 50th anniversary, rumours are more rife than ever. Given its reputation as perhaps the most powerful organisation in the world, the Bilderberg group doesn't go a bundle on its switchboard operations.

Telephone inquiries are met with an impersonal female voice - the Dutch equivalent of the BT Callminder woman - reciting back the number and inviting callers to "leave a message after the tone".

Anyone who accidentally dialled the number would probably think they had stumbled on just another residential answer machine.

Leiden in Holland, the inauspicious base of the Bilderberg group But behind this ultra-modest façade lies one of the most controversial and hotly-debated alliances of our times.

On Thursday the Bilderberg group marks its 50th anniversary with the start of its yearly meeting.

For four days some of the West's chief political movers, business leaders, bankers, industrialists and strategic thinkers will hunker down in a five-star hotel in northern Italy to talk about global issues.

What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique.

Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted.

The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website.

DISCREET AND ELITE This year Bilderberg has announced a list of attendees They include BP chief John Browne, US Senator John Edwards, World Bank president James Wolfensohn and Mrs Bill Gates

In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is largely decided by Bilderberg.

In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance.

And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical.

A former journalist, Mr Gosling runs a campaign against the group from his home in Bristol, UK.

"My main problem is the secrecy. When so many people with so much power get together in one place I think we are owed an explanation of what is going on.

Timothy McVeigh was among those who believed the conspiracy theory Mr Gosling seizes on a quote from Will Hutton, the British economist and a former Bilderberg delegate, who likened it to the annual WEF gathering where "the consensus established is the backdrop against which policy is made worldwide".

"One of the first places I heard about the determination of US forces to attack Iraq was from leaks that came out of the 2002 Bilderberg meeting," says Mr Gosling.

But "privacy, rather than secrecy", is key to such a meeting says Financial Times journalist Martin Wolf, who has been invited several times in a non-reporting role.

"The idea that such meetings cannot be held in private is fundamentally totalitarian," he says. "It's not an executive body; no decisions are taken there."

As an up-and-coming statesmen in the 1950s, Denis Healey, who went on to become a Labour chancellor, was one of the four founding members of Bilderberg (which was named after the hotel in Holland where the first meeting was held in 1954).

The alternative - the WEF welcomes journalists His response to claims that Bilderberg exerts a shadowy hand on the global tiller is met with characteristic bluntness. "Crap!"

"There's absolutely nothing in it. We never sought to reach a consensus on the big issues at Bilderberg. It's simply a place for discussion," says Lord Healey.

Formed in the spirit of post-war trans-Atlantic co-operation, the idea behind Bilderberg was that future wars could be prevented by bringing power-brokers together in an informal setting away from prying eyes.

"Bilderberg is the most useful international group I ever attended. The confidentiality enabled people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions.

"In my experience the most useful meetings are those when one is free to speak openly and honestly. It's not unusual at all. Cabinet meetings in all countries are held behind closed doors and the minutes are not published."

That activists have seized on Bilderberg is no surprise to Alasdair Spark, an expert in conspiracy theories.

"The idea that a shadowy clique is running the world is nothing new. For hundreds of years people have believed the world is governed by a cabal of Jews.

"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bilderberg; conspiracy; conspiracytheory; edwards; gates; jbs; newworldorder; nwo; richpeople; tinfoilhat
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To: american spirit
the fact that groups of very rich powerful people connected to politics, business, media, etc. meet in secret to plan any number of new initiatives (and for what purpose?) as opposed to what?......everything just happens by accident?

False dichotomy

61 posted on 11/15/2004 3:07:36 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: dead
He takes the money, but he says he really just does it so I don't fall off a ladder and kill myself.

How can that be, you're already Dead.

62 posted on 11/15/2004 3:13:39 PM PST by bad company (Four more years.)
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To: Jack Black

However fancy-shmancy they are, what really matters is - do they get it right? The article doesn't say.


63 posted on 11/15/2004 3:15:11 PM PST by etcetera (Not our power, but our will, is the target.)
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To: Jack Black

Isn't this the group that takes its' marching orders from the gray aliens?


64 posted on 11/15/2004 3:32:35 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: CWOJackson
For a secret society bend on taking over the world they're not doing to good of a job at remaining secret and hiding their plans.

Ah, they've been unsuccessful in hiding their plans. I'd like to take a look. Where are they published?

65 posted on 11/15/2004 4:08:03 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

There's only been a couple of hundred links to their secret plans on FR over the last year or so. I didn't need any special glasses to read them either.


66 posted on 11/15/2004 4:09:29 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
None of those threads are true.
67 posted on 11/15/2004 4:12:18 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: CWOJackson

Fnord.


68 posted on 11/15/2004 4:12:33 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Wormwood

Did you decode them properly?


69 posted on 11/15/2004 4:12:58 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Jack Black
It's amazing to me that such a group of people go to all that expense and time to just sit around an talk, and not work to enact. Also, when there is enforced secrecy, there is something to hide.

Aside from the possibly deflective guests, who are the core members?

70 posted on 11/15/2004 4:13:17 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Wormwood; CWOJackson

None of those threads are true.



Shush....... don't let the word out..... it's a secret don'tcha know.

http://www.bilderberg.org/#Bilderberg


71 posted on 11/15/2004 4:34:17 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: deport
Wait till the world finds out it's only an executive Bohemian weekend. Sitting around the hot tub, drinking wine and talking about the latest episode of Survivor.
72 posted on 11/15/2004 4:35:53 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Jack Black

Sounds a lot like a meeting of the CBS editorial board...


73 posted on 11/15/2004 4:37:32 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
John Edwards going to the Bilderberg meeting? But I thought he was a common man???????

He was at the Bildeberg meeting last year.

74 posted on 11/15/2004 4:38:22 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: Jack Black
And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical.

What does liberalism or libertarianism have to do with Zionism one way or the other???

75 posted on 11/15/2004 4:44:35 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (G-D'S TORAH defines conservatism.)
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To: mjtobias

Exactly. But then again, other than you, our view has largely been written off as some kind of paranoia. So my butcher, baker, and candlestick maker aren't looking out for my best of interests either? Yeah, well they don't pool together billions of dollars (or is it euros these days?) and have clandestine meetings across the globe.

But I guess I should just accept it as part of the "globalization" movement.

Come on. Isn't this the kind of Big-Brother-knows-best elitism that Americans have always rejected?


76 posted on 11/15/2004 4:50:51 PM PST by Norman Bates (Game over. Bush wins.)
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To: jriemer

Am I the only one seeing the Reverse Vampires getting off scot-free on this thread?


77 posted on 11/15/2004 7:33:12 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Jack Black

78 posted on 11/15/2004 7:35:07 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Jack Black

79 posted on 11/15/2004 7:36:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Norman Bates
Dear Norman,

I hate to be the one who breaks it to you, but there are millions of "clandestine meetings" taking place across the world every day! Some of those meetings involve billions of dollars!

I know. I've attended some of them. I attended one of them today.

It's called "private enterprise." And history shows it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative.

History also shows that if the Bilderbergers get too far along in their plot to secure world domination, the "What-A-Burgers" will come along and compete by offering a more benign form of benevolent dictatorship.

The point is, even though your butcher (think Tyson Foods), your baker (Archer Daniels Midland, for example), and your brewer (choose one, Busch, Coors, Schlitz, among many others) DO pool together billions of dollars and have clandestine meetings, you don't miss a meal due to lack of available food!

If you have some kind of hard evidence of conspiracy, bring it forward. Displaying economic literacy would help. Otherwise, I reserve the right to write off unfounded conspiratorial theories as some kind of paranoia.

As far as the threat of "globalism" is concerned, Adam Smith demolished it two and a quarter centuries ago. And it was against big brother elitism against which Professor Smith most ardently and successfully railed.
80 posted on 11/15/2004 8:35:20 PM PST by The Great Yazoo (Why do penumbras not emanate from the Tenth Amendment as promiscuously as they do from the First?)
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