[Josh in PA]

Place your bets.

[OwnershipSociety]

Not Hitlery, not ever.

[BlackRazor]

I'm a bit surprised that neither Mark Warner nor Phil Bredesen are on the Democrat list (especially the former).

[Coop]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[AntiGuv]

Call me crazy, but I think Al Gore will run again and the leftists are in his corner after the Dean endorsement and his vein-popping harangues the past couple years. I think he's the odds on early favorite (I don't think they'll be stupid enough to nominate Hillary). I don't think they're gonna move to the center (e.g., Bayh).

[mhking]

"PLACE BETS NOW!"

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[Drango]

Bill Frist I guess...(I'd activly campaign to STOP McCain)

[gridlock]

At 18-1 I put my money down on John F. Kerry. He won more votes than any Presidential candidate before him. In 2008 he'll be tanned (real this time), rested and ready.

[Doc Savage]

The over-riding question is will the DemonRat's smoke -filled back-room opt to go to the Extreme Left on the assumption that Kerry wasn't Liberal enough????? Or will they pull the Dick Morris Triangulation strategy out of mothballs and head for the middle.

Hitlery knows that the kook fringe will never get her elected. So she has only one option. Spend the next 4 years becoming a moderate (in appearance only). My guess is that Red America will not buy it!

[cardinal4]

I saw on DU while lurking, a general disavowing of the Hildabeast. They claim she is just too polarizing. I would submit she is too communist..

[Condor51]

C'mon give it a rest already.

[Terpfen]

McCain is in the lead?

Reminds me why I love ignoring this place. "President McCain" isn't going to happen. "President Owens" might.

[omniscient]

Obama at only 52.6 to 1? With most Dems and Old Media chanting his praises in rapturous unison, orgasming in ecstasy at his every utterance no matter how banal or platitudinous, in complete awe of their apparent messiah's perfection, how can this be?

[steveegg]

You need some commentary, and since I won't vote on the DemonRAT side, I'll do some....

Hillary Clinton --- 34.1 / About 2.9 to 1 - What can be said; she's the odds-on favorite.
Evan Bayh --- 13.0 / About 7.7 to 1 - SUCKER BET! Taranto's already got his Bahy-ku set.
John Edwards --- 9.5 / About 10.5 to 1 - Pretty boys finish last.
Bill Richardson --- 8.8 / About 11.4 to 1 - He couldn't deliver New Mexico this time, which is a plus for his VP chances.
Christopher Dodd --- 6.8 / About 14.7 to 1 - The author of the provisional ballot will get some consideration.
Al Gore --- 5.7 / About 17.5 to 1 - L-O-S-E-R.
John Kerry --- 5.5 / About 18.2 to 1 - Ask Algore how successful his 2004 run was or Fritz how he never won anything after betting wiped out by Reagan in 1984.
Ed Rendell --- 5.1 / About 19.6 to 1 - Big state, has a big machine, but is he lieberal enough?
Tom Vilsack --- 5.0 / About 20.0 to 1 - No chance. Richardson without the Clintonista ties.
Joe Biden --- 4.5 / About 22.2 to 1 - He's so saddened. Oh so soddened.
Howard Dean --- 3.8 / About 26.3 to 1 - Put some covering action on him just in case Hiliary doesn't make it to 2008.
Harold Ford --- 3.1 / About 32.3 to 1 - The best thing about him is his name sounds a lot like the best Republican President a DemonRAT could ever have wished for.
Wesley Clark --- 2.7 / About 37.0 to 1 - He served his role, now he'll shut up.
Patrick Leahy --- 2.5 / About 40.0 to 1 - His only chance is if the Soviet Union returns and he can start leaking to them again.
Joseph Lieberman --- 2.2 / About 45.5 to 1 - Loserman.
Barack Obama --- 1.9 / About 52.6 to 1 - THE dark horse.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Bill Owens sounds very good.
How is he on gun control, abortion and CRIMINAL INVADERS?



"Called "the best governor in America" by National Review magazine, Bill Owens was sworn in as Colorado's 40th Governor in January 1999. He was re-elected in 2002 with the greatest majority in Colorado history, earning a broad mandate for his innovative leadership.
Gov. Owens pushed through the largest tax relief package in state history, amounting to $1 billion in cuts in rates of sales, personal-income, and capital-gains taxes, and an elimination of the marriage penalty. As a result, he has won high marks for his fiscal leadership, earning the highest grade among the nation's governors from the Cato Institute. His policies of low taxes and restrained government spending were cited as an example for other states in a lead editorial in The Wall Street Journal.

Touted as one of the major emerging leaders in American politics by The Economist magazine, Owens was also identified as one of the country's top ten rising political stars by syndicated columnist Robert Novak. He is the Chairman of the Western Governors' Association and the immediate past-Chairman of the Republican Governors' Association and the Natural Resources Committee of the National Governors' Association. Owens is a member of the Board of Governors of Young America's Foundation, which owns and runs the Reagan Ranch in Santa Barbara, California."

[SlowBoat407]

I just got some inside info on exit polling data. Hillary is winning by a landslide (/sarcasm)

[Military family member]

Evan Bayh was a fairly popular governor here in Indiana. He's voted Republican more often than Democrat during the last four years. Indiana's not Ohio, but it does have 11 electoral votes. Evan could give them to the Dems.

An 11-point swing--everything else going the same way--would give the Dems the White House.

[GraniteStateConservative]

John McCain, 21.8%
Rudy Giuliani, 17.8%

Gallup has Rudy comfortably ahead of McCain. Curious that Tradesports hasn't responded to that poll.

[the invisib1e hand]

go long Awenold, sell McCain short.

[OXENinFLA]

A.Schwarzenegger --- 1.6 / About 62.5 to 1

Why is he on there?

[only1percent]

The absence of Breseden, Warner and Easley from the Democratic listings makes no sense. At least one of them will get in, and probably two. Particularly perplexing when the list includes Dodd, Biden and Lieberman, none of whom is likely to get in, or last past January '08 if they do.

Barak Obama is far too smart to run before his time, and 2008 won't be it. Hillary Clinton is as smart as Obama, but, unlike Barak, 2008 is the now-or-never time for her. (Sort of the way that 2004 was for Kerry). The real question is whether the Democratic electorate will confuse personal ambition for electability the way they did with Kerry.