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TradeSports.Com: 2008 Presidential Nominations
TradeSports.Com ^ | 11/15/04 | Josh in PA

Posted on 11/15/2004 4:45:59 AM PST by Josh in PA

Republican Nomination

John McCain        --- 21.8 /  About  4.6 to 1  (Bet $1, win $4.60)
Rudy Guiliani      --- 17.8 /  About  5.6 to 1
Bill Owens         --- 12.6 /  About  7.9 to 1
Bill Frist         --- 12.1 /  About  8.3 to 1
Mitt Romney        --- 10.1 /  About 10.0 to 1
Jeb Bush           ---  8.0 /  About 12.5 to 1
George Allen       ---  5.5 /  About 18.2 to 1
Colin Powell       ---  4.7 /  About 21.3 to 1
Tom Ridge          ---  3.5 /  About 28.6 to 1
Chuck Hagel        ---  2.2 /  About 45.5 to 1
Condeleeza Rice    ---  2.2 /  About 45.5 to 1
A.Schwarzenegger   ---  1.6 /  About 62.5 to 1
Tommy Thompson     ---  1.4 /  About 71.4 to 1
George Pataki      ---  1.3 /  About 77.0 to 1
Dick Cheney        ---  0.6 /  About 166  to 1

Democratic Nomination

Hillary Clinton    --- 34.1 /  About  2.9 to 1 (Bet $1, win $2.90)
Evan Bayh          --- 13.0 /  About  7.7 to 1
John Edwards       ---  9.5 /  About 10.5 to 1
Bill Richardson    ---  8.8 /  About 11.4 to 1
Christopher Dodd   ---  6.8 /  About 14.7 to 1
Al Gore            ---  5.7 /  About 17.5 to 1
John Kerry         ---  5.5 /  About 18.2 to 1
Ed Rendell         ---  5.1 /  About 19.6 to 1
Tom Vilsack        ---  5.0 /  About 20.0 to 1
Joe Biden          ---  4.5 /  About 22.2 to 1
Howard Dean        ---  3.8 /  About 26.3 to 1
Harold Ford        ---  3.1 /  About 32.3 to 1
Wesley Clark       ---  2.7 /  About 37.0 to 1
Patrick Leahy      ---  2.5 /  About 40.0 to 1
Joseph Lieberman   ---  2.2 /  About 45.5 to 1
Barack Obama       ---  1.9 /  About 52.6 to 1


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To: the invisib1e hand

I think you guys are way off,.

I think McCain is a bargain right now. I personally wouldn't vote for him in the primary, but I wouldn't be disgusted if he gets the nomination, like alot of people around here would be.

Guiliani and Schwarzenegger are not winning Iowa or South Carolina GOP primaries. I don't think they can win it.





41 posted on 11/15/2004 6:28:52 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: OXENinFLA
It was a gut buster. I couldn't drink anything while watching the show or else it would wind up on the TV and floor from laughing.

My 2nd favorite favorite is the "winter episode" but then again, I'm cracked.

42 posted on 11/15/2004 6:28:52 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: the invisib1e hand


That being said.. I would vote for McCain before I would vote for Arnold or Rudy!!


43 posted on 11/15/2004 6:29:57 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: Terpfen
The only Democrats left in elected office are the far-left ones from far-left states and districts.

Ummmm, Evan Bayh, the popular two-term governor of Indiana and current Senator, is from an extremely conservative state. Indiana went overwhelmingly for Bush, has a Republican governor, Senate and House, and has 7 of its 9 members of Congress from the GOP. In fact. of the three incumbents defeated this year nationally (if you exclude the Texas gerrymander victories), one, Baron Hill, was a Democrat from Indiana.

Despite all of this, Bayh got 62% of the vote two weeks ago for another term. That means an incredible number of Hoosiers who voted for Bush also voted for Bayh.

He is a Henry Jackson type Democrat in a very Red state.

44 posted on 11/15/2004 6:38:00 AM PST by Zebra
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To: Josh in PA

The absence of Breseden, Warner and Easley from the Democratic listings makes no sense. At least one of them will get in, and probably two. Particularly perplexing when the list includes Dodd, Biden and Lieberman, none of whom is likely to get in, or last past January '08 if they do.

Barak Obama is far too smart to run before his time, and 2008 won't be it. Hillary Clinton is as smart as Obama, but, unlike Barak, 2008 is the now-or-never time for her. (Sort of the way that 2004 was for Kerry). The real question is whether the Democratic electorate will confuse personal ambition for electability the way they did with Kerry.


45 posted on 11/15/2004 6:43:17 AM PST by only1percent
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To: Josh in PA
That being said.. I would vote for McCain before I would vote for Arnold or Rudy!!

traders have a saying: "that's what makes a market."

46 posted on 11/15/2004 6:45:44 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Zebra

Evan Bayh is not a politician of consequence. He most definitely isn't going to win a Democrat presidential nomination, and he's not proof of a moderate takeover in the Democrat party.


47 posted on 11/15/2004 6:47:25 AM PST by Terpfen (Anyone who worried about the election: crack a smile. We won.)
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To: Josh in PA

Tim Pawlenty-R-Gov. Minnesota. Good VP at Minimum. He can smell national office already.


48 posted on 11/15/2004 6:49:30 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (You can drive from coast to coast and never pass through a single county won by Kerry.)
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To: gridlock

Main reason he won more votes than any other...with the exception of GWB...is that the left was running an "anybody but Bush" campaign!! They would have voted for Hussein just to get President Bush out!


49 posted on 11/15/2004 7:57:49 AM PST by trussell (Unemployed intellectual...will act like a pompous ass for food!!)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Tim Pawlenty-R-Gov. Minnesota. Good VP at Minimum. He can smell national office already.

I like him too. He needs to win re-election in 2006 first.

50 posted on 11/15/2004 8:00:57 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Are you on Owen's payroll? If not, he should hire you. I read somewhere that he said he was not going to run. If he runs, I think he has the best chance of getting nominated.

The best person the Republicans could nominate though, is Con. Ron Paul. He is the only real conservative Republican at the national level. Please run Ron!

Question for all, if the Republicans were dumb enough to nominate a lib like Rudy, would some of you guys finally surgically remove yourself from the hip of the GOP and bolt? Or would you hold your nose and vote for Rudy? Rudy will not win though because he can not win Iowa or the Southern Primaries. There is a mischievous part of me that hopes he wins. Maybe some conservatives would finally wake up and see what a fraud the GOP has become.
51 posted on 11/15/2004 9:56:00 AM PST by Red Phillips (your friendly, neighborhood, ideological gadfly)
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To: ambrose; COEXERJ145; cajungirl

FYI - get your bets in now ;)


52 posted on 11/15/2004 9:57:09 AM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: Josh in PA

There is one FOR SURE bet. It is AGAINST
Arnold Schwarzenegger. He can not be president.


53 posted on 11/15/2004 10:27:44 AM PST by John D
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To: Josh in PA

McCain would be very dangerous to our nation's security. He is much too hot head to control our nuclear weapons.


54 posted on 11/15/2004 10:31:56 AM PST by John D
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To: Josh in PA

But what record is Gore going to run on? He used to be a vice president that lost? What is on his resume lately except giving ranting shrieking speeches? Same thing with John Edwards. His resume says he is an out of work trail lawyer who also would have lost his senate seat had he not tried and failed to become vp?


55 posted on 11/15/2004 10:39:55 AM PST by katiebelle
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To: TNCMAXQ

I am from MS and voted for Haley but come on have you heard the man talk? Good grief....he is a lobbyist first and foremost. He isn't exactly setting the state on fire down here!


56 posted on 11/15/2004 10:42:17 AM PST by katiebelle
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To: katiebelle

Agree..

People betting on Edwards are nuts IMO.. I might get in there and short him. There's noway he gets the nomination.

Gore is known, he's out there screeching, he has a better shot than Edwards.


57 posted on 11/15/2004 10:50:47 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA
John McCain --- 21.8 / About 4.6 to 1 (Bet $1, win $4.60)

About 3.6 to 1 (etal).

58 posted on 11/15/2004 10:57:36 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: steveegg
Some commentary on the other side:

John McCain --- 21.8 (far too senatorial; certain loser)
Rudy Guiliani --- 17.8 (nice appeal, but can he win primaries in the South with his "personal" life?)
Bill Owens --- 12.6 (excellent choice, Governor of Colorado)
Bill Frist --- 12.1 (again a Senator, no chance; try a governor or senior administration official)
Mitt Romney --- 10.1 (too Northeastern to win primary)
Jeb Bush --- 8.0 (nepotism concerns; doesn't want it?; unlikely)
George Allen --- 5.5 (senator but former governor...a dark horse at best)
Colin Powell --- 4.7 (out. resigned; wife won't let him)
Tom Ridge --- 3.5 (blue-state appeal. but is he visible enough? possible.)
Chuck Hagel --- 2.2 (dismiss. Senator)
Condeleeza Rice --- 2.2 (easy counter to the Hildabeast, and Sec of State position, if she gets it...)
A.Schwarzenegger --- 1.6 (no. unconstitutional.)
Tommy Thompson --- 1.4 (another dark horse. maybe, but is he visible enough?)
George Pataki --- 1.3 (far too liberal for red staters)
Dick Cheney --- 0.6 (vastly underestimated, but I doubt it unless Bush dies in office)
59 posted on 11/15/2004 11:10:43 AM PST by dufekin (Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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To: dufekin
Oh yeah, mysteriously missing but likely candidate: South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford. Possible other candidates: wildly popular red- and slightly-blue-state governors.

Also missing: Donald Rumsfeld, Porter Goss, Tommy Franks, Elaine Chao, Gen. Abazaid, Gen. Sanchez, new Bush war cabinet.
60 posted on 11/15/2004 11:15:32 AM PST by dufekin (Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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