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What Americans voted against on November 2nd, was the coarsening culture represented by John F*ckin' and the Democrats' alignment with Hollywood. To put Rabbi Shmuley Boteach's excellent analysis of Kerry's loss in terms we can all understand, it can be reduced to a concise bumper sticker slogan: "Its the Culture, Stupid!" Indeed.
1 posted on 11/14/2004 11:17:08 PM PST by goldstategop
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I saw the O'Reilly Factor the other day with some woman named Jeanne Wolf--boy, was she pi$$ed and hateful. She disdainfully sneered at W's small margin of victory and said he was like a "little boy" with Arnold in OH. She claimed that Bruce Springsteen had credibility--tho' she didn't explain why, I wish O'Reilly had asked her elaborate upon that--anyone can make a claim about anything. She also argued that these jerk celebs actually made a difference in keeping the race close--implying that if it hadn't been for them, Kerry might have lost by worse! What ego!

I thought her comments very ironic--Kerry himself acted like a "little boy" onstage with all those celebs, I expected him to whip out a pen and camera and ask them for an autograph and his picture to be taken with them. He was like a star-struck groupie.

As for Eminem, for such a "tough-guy," he sure does like girlie-men like Kerry. . . hmmmmmm.

2 posted on 11/14/2004 11:24:11 PM PST by gop_gene
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While I agree with a lot of what he says, I think Kerry lost because people in the Red states do not believe he or his party are serious about the country's defense.

The election was close enough where any of a multitude of important issues made the difference. However, between the war on terror and Iraq, those two issues were the most important in the election.

A backlash on the media's bias, hollywood's leftism, and legislating from the bench were significant and may have been decisive.


3 posted on 11/14/2004 11:26:56 PM PST by winner3000
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Rabbi Shmuley is great. I really enjoy his analysis and passion, and others might as well.


5 posted on 11/14/2004 11:35:00 PM PST by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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These clebs turned me off so much that now when I go to rent a movie and I see one of them in it, I find myself too discusted to rent their movies now. I love ot watch a well acted movie, that's been runied.


7 posted on 11/14/2004 11:41:37 PM PST by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
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"the coarsening culture"indeed, and another example of that coarsening - I might add, is your own use of the F word to describe John Kerry's middle name...try cleaning up your own street...
8 posted on 11/14/2004 11:42:05 PM PST by databoss (WMD's, Syria and North Korea...)
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Hits the nail on the head for me. Unfortunately, most of the celebs that are most outspoken feel compelled to keep talking. They're ego driven and cannot stop.

The one "entertainer" who really irks me is Emenim. This guy makes a living acting like this big rebel. "Yo, white rapper in the house,blah blah blah." Yet, here he is lining up with all the other lemmings on the left, spouting talking points given to him from Mary Beth Cahill. How establishment can you be? Besides being a total dreg to society, I hope a lot of kids who have been poisoned by his tripe will wake up to the fact that he's a fraud. An untalented idiot fraud at that.

11 posted on 11/14/2004 11:55:33 PM PST by Wonderama ("America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy"....John Updike)
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In reality, the No. 1 moral issue for most Americans is not gay marriage, but the foul and sleazy culture which is destroying their children's innocence.

He "gets" it.

14 posted on 11/15/2004 12:00:52 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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Whenever I had doubts about voting for George Bush all I had to do is look at all the Hollywood schmucks trying to get John Kerry elected. Their antics have taken the luster off the music and movies produced by our entertainment superstars. Most of who live in that state of fantasy known as California. How can I ever take Bruce Springsteen seriously again? He's an idiot when it comes to politics. He's just the most visible

(Not that ever much liked his music anyway)


15 posted on 11/15/2004 12:03:16 AM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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You bet...The democrats threw a ton of money down the terlet!!!


19 posted on 11/15/2004 12:49:29 AM PST by Route101
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Gauging culture in America is like measuring the depth of warpaint on a whore; it is all superficial, a mask as likely to flake and fall off with the morning sun or the first hard rain as to remain until the last trick is turned.


21 posted on 11/15/2004 1:21:15 AM PST by Old Professer ( War too often becomes personal; we inure ourselves to the abstract and audit too lightly)
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Ping.


22 posted on 11/15/2004 1:23:19 AM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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not kingmakers, but court-jesters

That's right, they are the court jesters, which they would know if they read their history. Or as Tom Selleck (an actor with a sense of his relationship to the universe) says, they make faces at the camera for a living.

28 posted on 11/15/2004 3:05:42 AM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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There was a time - long ago - when no parent would want their child to be an actor. It was seen as a less-than-respectable occupation. They were perceived as a sleazy, loose bunch. (Guess what grandma? You were right.) Nothing's changed, except now we have TV bringing the sleaze into our homes. We don't have to go to the movies or see it on the stage. There were a few - like Jimmy Stewart - but not many.


30 posted on 11/15/2004 3:32:17 AM PST by sneakers
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Funny thing, two major reasons for anti-Americanism world-wide are the sleazy images of America and moral degeneracy promoted by Hollywood. Believe it or not, there are still cultures where children are expected to obey their parents and the unmarried (at least women) are expected to remain chaste. You don't have to be a fundamentalist Muslim wingnut to object to the corrupting influence of the US entertainment industry.


32 posted on 11/15/2004 3:43:42 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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Not a comprehensive analysis of the election, but it's not trying to be - very good article, overall. Boteach is so inconsistent ... sometimes he hits a hole in one, and sometimes he's lost among the snapping turtles.


35 posted on 11/15/2004 5:37:30 AM PST by Tax-chick (First we had all the money, then we got all the votes, now we have all the fun!)
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bttt


40 posted on 11/15/2004 11:07:03 AM PST by happygrl
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Schmuley Boteach used to be Michael Jackson's "spiritual advisor," and at one time the were involved in some kind of children's charity together. Now he's apparently seen the writing on the wall and decided to work the other side of the street. There are plenty of bona fide conservative pundits out there. I can do without the preaching of this johnny come lately opportunist.


43 posted on 11/15/2004 11:43:20 AM PST by kms61
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It's hard to tell if the Hollywoodies and Muslims (and several other aggravating aggregates of the irresponsible) are truly children of a lesser god, or if they just haven't yet evolved to the level of decent humans. Whatever the case, they sure make it rough on those of us who try to hold it in the road.




44 posted on 11/15/2004 4:25:13 PM PST by telltaleheart
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What I want to know is why 85% of the Jewish vote went to Kerry. Are they that immoral? Perhaps Boteach needs to be preaching to his own people.


47 posted on 11/15/2004 7:07:46 PM PST by kittymyrib
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This pic of a CD album cover in an advertising supplement jumped out at me yesterday morning, and it brought back to mind the old observation about the acting ability of today's Hollywood superstars. This is acting? No Bridget, it's making faces! Court jesters? Barely!


48 posted on 11/15/2004 7:22:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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