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CIA Agent: Nuke Attack Surely Coming
News Max ^ | 11-15-04 | Dave Eberhart

Posted on 11/14/2004 5:56:00 PM PST by hope

Reprinted from NewsMax.com

CIA Agent: Nuke Attack Surely Coming

Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Monday, Nov. 15, 2004
Former CIA agent Michael Scheuer told CBS “Sixty Minutes”’ Steve Kroft Sunday that the U.S. fumbled ten chances to kill or capture terror chief Osama bin Laden – before 9/11. Now, he is convinced that the international outlaw will attack the U.S. homeland with some sort of nuclear weapon of mass destruction.

"They're intention is to end the war as soon as they can and to ratchet up the pain for the Americans until we get out of their region.... If they acquire the weapon, they will use it, whether it's chemical, biological or some sort of nuclear weapon," said Scheuer.

In his first television interview without disguise, Scheuer appeared most aggravated by a missed opportunity to level a hunting camp where bin Laden was holding court with several Arab princes.

“If they were eating goat with bin Laden, you know they were up to nefarious purposes. What were a few less Arab princes when considering 3000 dead Americans?”

At one point, the gung-ho agent was dismissed from the bin Laden project at the CIA that went by the code name “Alec.” He told Kroft that he was considered “too persistent” and constantly lobbied his superiors about their “unwillingness to take risks.”

But after 9/11 he was brought back aboard.

His attitude about U.S. policy has not gotten much better. He holds former CIA director George Tenet responsible for 9/11 and lambastes former White House security aide Richard Clark for “constantly denigrating our intelligence.”

"One of the questions that should have been asked of Mr. Tenet was why were there always enough people for the public relations office, for the academic outreach office, for the diversity and multi-cultural office? All those things are admirable and necessary but none of them are protecting the American people from a foreign threat," said Scheuer.

Scheuer thinks it is a grave mistake for the administration to advertise bin Laden as a “thug or gangster.”

“He is not irrational but a worthy opponent,” Scheuer insisted, going as far as to say that bin Laden was in his opinion “a great man.”

“His greatness comes from his ability to influence the course of history.”

"Until we respect him, sir, we are going to die in numbers that are probably unnecessary, yes. He's a very, very talented man and a very worthy opponent," he added to Kroft.

Scheuer coyly admitted to CBS that he was the "anonymous" author of two books critical of the West's response to bin Laden and al Qaeda, the most recent of which is titled Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror.

The CIA allowed him to write the books provided he remain anonymous, but now is allowing him to reveal himself for the first time on Sunday's broadcast; he formally leaves the Agency on Nov. 12.

Other points from the interview:



TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedanukes; cia; clintonlegacy; jihadinamerica; losingbinladen; scheuer
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To: FrankRepublican
"This guy should have killed OBL instead of fawning over him."

May that was his plan:

At one point, the gung-ho agent was dismissed from the bin Laden project at the CIA that went by the code name “Alec.” He told Kroft that he was considered “too persistent” and constantly lobbied his superiors about their “unwillingness to take risks.”

81 posted on 11/14/2004 6:57:14 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: kempo
OBL a great man? If OBL is a great man so was Hitler and Stalin.

Correct. But Scheuer's definition of "great" doesn't mean good. It means "changed history".

82 posted on 11/14/2004 7:00:29 PM PST by secretagent
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To: hope
""They're intention is to end the war as soon as they can . . . "

Really, really bad logic.

83 posted on 11/14/2004 7:02:12 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: maestro
More food for thought:

Osama could have waited to strike again in the U.S. until he had a nuclear device from Kadhafi or Saddam or an Iranian Ayatollah. He didn't, he struck the Trade Towers to scratch us into world-wide war with Mulims. A Zawahiri approach would be to wait until he has the best weapon of mass murder he can get his hands on, then use it in the U.S. or in a war theater against our forces, to achieve maximum damage.

Osama misunderstood Americans and their tolerance of the degenerate clinton, and the appeasement mentality of the clinton fools and jesters doing everything they could to cover up that we were at war with Terrorism. Had Osama believed Bush would react differently than the sinkEmperor, he would have followed a Zawahiri approach, to be strongest when striking the first major blow. The Trade Towers were but one in a series of scratches at America, in order to escalate gradually into a world-wide jihad against America and everything American. That was Osama's goal. Zawahiri will gladly take down the world to get us out of power.

84 posted on 11/14/2004 7:04:06 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Noachian
If America's loss of 3,000 people cost him so dearly, what will nuking the states cost him and his beloved Islam?

Bush should spell out to the Arab world just what the consequences would be if this were to happen & by all means carry out the threat.

85 posted on 11/14/2004 7:08:10 PM PST by Digger
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To: MHGinTN

UR# 84......agreed!


86 posted on 11/14/2004 7:09:29 PM PST by maestro
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To: Perdogg
He's a little nutty:

"...They're intention is to end the war as soon as they can and to ratchet up the pain for the Americans until we get out of their region..."

His mantra is the "our foreign policies, not us do they hate" line. Problem is, it's both, as clearly stated by binLaden.

BTW, his book is coy. He suggests some ambits of Osama's theory as something he knows as an expert, however I knew them as verbatim from Osama's speeches - which, by the way, are rarely perused because such makes it hard to maintain the "it's all our fault or Israel's fault" line.

87 posted on 11/14/2004 7:10:07 PM PST by Shermy
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To: TFine80
On the other hand, I have to admit that I found Imperial Hubris contradictory and bizarre...

It was. On one level he takes the lefty's usual view that Osama's hate is not about "us" but merely our foreign policy in the Middle east (leaving out Timor, Kashmir, Phillipines, etc.) Ie, ideology has nothing to do with Osama's views.

Then he starts tacitly acknowledging Wahhabist views of permanent jihad and such. He's hard to follow. But he gains credibility since the Bush admin does little to inform discussion.

88 posted on 11/14/2004 7:13:02 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Commie Basher

There is no evidence of this..I don't go on "feelings"..We have had fugitives hide from manhunts here for years..He is among friends ..probably in Pakistan.


89 posted on 11/14/2004 7:13:33 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: TFine80
One thing that is right in Imperial Hubris and it applies to this nuke threat arg as well... Only a massive response will win in the end. It's too late to win hearts and minds. If we are going to be hit, we should just lash out and threaten the entire Middle East RIGHT NOW. Threaten all of the capitals. If this nuke intelligence is true, I don't give a crap about the lives....

Bush needs to become more aggressive here too. Maybe only now he is waking up discovering the mess the CIA is in.

We are being aggressive. Extremely aggressive. The notion that we are not being "aggressive enough" is simply silly.

We have fought the most successful unconventional war in history (to date). We are winning this WOT - Those like this fool who wrote Imperial Hubris are simply mad because they are on the wrong side of history and have been wrong for years in how to successfully not only win a war against terrorist but also in how the Middle East needs to be changed.

Freedom and self-worth are the keys to changing the Middle East. These values have for far to long been denied the citizens of this region.

Does the fact that the terrorists fight within the citizenry make this war extremely difficult and frustrating at times? - Of course it does.

But our goal and our security is worth the risk and costs that are coming in this war.

GWB has been clear from the start - this is a different kind of war - this war will be long - many of our successes will never be known (at least not for years) - But understand we are having silent, untold successes nightly!

90 posted on 11/14/2004 7:15:42 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: dubyaismypresident


For the record:
I would gladly give up my vote, provided
every other woman had to give up hers.
Left to me, I'd restrict the vote to
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91 posted on 11/14/2004 7:17:36 PM PST by onyx
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To: MEG33
UR # 89......hmmmmmm

There is no evidence of this..I don't go on "feelings"..We have had fugitives hide from manhunts here for years..He is among friends ..probably in Pakistan..........or CANADA.

/sarcasm

92 posted on 11/14/2004 7:17:40 PM PST by maestro
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To: oceanview
"OBL would be betting that the US would not respond against population centers..."

To the contrary, that is precisely what bin Laden is hoping for, that we would blindly strike out at population centers with nukes. He's losing the war and he knows it. He needs to rally Arab outrage back to his side.

--Boot Hill

93 posted on 11/14/2004 7:37:43 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Boot Hill

well then, what would the reprisal be for NYC being nuked?


94 posted on 11/14/2004 7:42:07 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
"what would the reprisal be for NYC being nuked?"

The junior squad thinks in terms of "reprisals". The varsity squad thinks in terms of global strategy.

--Boot Hill

95 posted on 11/14/2004 7:47:48 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Boot Hill

it might be a little late for the global strategy at that point, our economy would be spiraling towards depression.


96 posted on 11/14/2004 7:51:58 PM PST by oceanview
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To: hope

The reason that I think OBL's attack on the US was not stupid is because he has achieved the precise goal he set out to acheive...he wants to be the leader of a united Islam, and creating a common foe for all Islam to fear is the fastest way to bring all sects together.

He is not concerned with the survival of Islamic nation states. He wants to be the leader of a Pan-Islamic nation.

We must realize that when the moderates begin to assert control (assuming they ever do), we will again be attacked in an effort to rally all elements under the OBL banner.

Is he intelligent? That depends on whether his methods effectively achieve his ends.


97 posted on 11/14/2004 8:29:42 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: DevSix

We are being aggressive. Extremely aggressive. The notion that we are not being "aggressive enough" is simply silly


I agree that we are being extremely aggressive on thw e WOT, but until we seal our borders, we will not be as aggressive as we SHOULD be. We are spending billions checking little old ladies shoes at the airport and a few million trying to prevent terrorists from coming across our borders. We will regret this in the future.


98 posted on 11/14/2004 8:33:00 PM PST by conshack
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To: section9

I agree with you and also this is just another hit job by CBS on President Bush. They mean to scare the hell out of everyone and make his life miserable if they can. I have no doubt that liberals who watched this show are sh**ing their pants and running in circles tonight, remember the old saying, "when in danger, when in doubt run in circles scream and shout!" This is what the Dems have been doing since Bush won re-election and will continue to do until we finally smear all the terrorists all over africa and asisa.


99 posted on 11/14/2004 8:33:48 PM PST by calex59
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To: Digger
We pay our hard earned taxes for a Nuke arsenal, and to think if we are attacked with a Nuke, we wouldn't respond with Nukes is a simple absurdity. This or any President that did not respond with a Nuke attack would face immediate Impeachment.
100 posted on 11/14/2004 8:36:43 PM PST by BOOTSTICK (meet me in Kansas city)
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