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I love the environment, but I hate stupidity! This is way past stupid!
1 posted on 11/14/2004 11:39:08 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: farmfriend; B4Ranch; backhoe; Iconoclast2

Property rights, and land theft ping.


2 posted on 11/14/2004 11:42:03 AM PST by Issaquahking ( Bush won, Arafat is dead! Life is good!)
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To: isasis

ping


3 posted on 11/14/2004 11:43:15 AM PST by Issaquahking ( Bush won, Arafat is dead! Life is good!)
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To: Issaquahking

I can tell you exactly what's happening here. Migrant environmental lawyers fleeing the high cost of living in the greater Los Angeles metropolis, and San Francisco Bay Area are moving to places like Las Vegas where only mobsters and jackrabbits once reigned. There they find fresh pickings for various "environmental" lawsuits as the urban sprawl works its way out into the creosote and sage.


4 posted on 11/14/2004 11:44:08 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Issaquahking

I'm all for biodiversity...today's model plant for molecular biology (Arabidopsis
thaliana) is considered a weed).
But when the lawyers and guvmint gets in the mix (and Democrats are involved)
"bar the door"!!!


5 posted on 11/14/2004 11:47:34 AM PST by VOA
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To: Issaquahking
Hey, bureaucrats. You escaped from the power-crazed bureaucrat asylum reserve. Go back to California.

Oh, yeah, and you, Congress. Write some laws to restrict "endangered species" to actual species, not sub-sub-species or individual genes. I guess that pretty soon we'll be funding programs to assist the reproduction of genetic diseases among scrub. C'mon, get real; the American people could care less. Really.

And if you looked at every single plant in all of Nevada, we'd probably discover that these "genetic varieties" are far more common than you now suspect.

So let's get building.

And perhaps we should restore the Homestead Act to relieve the Bureau of Land Management of most of its land to manage, as well as the Department of Forestry and the various other government agencies that own most of the West. Let the Government keep 10-20% of the land--no more.
6 posted on 11/14/2004 11:50:41 AM PST by dufekin (Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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To: Issaquahking

Lawyers are necessary, but when they run amuck they become a scourge on the body politic. When I read stories like this I say to myself: Thank God George Bush is President.

(And I'm an agnostic.)


8 posted on 11/14/2004 11:51:20 AM PST by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Issaquahking

Yes, it's way past stupid. You would think the governments resources would be better spent on the environmental damage the illegalborder invasion is causing. National park habitat being destroyed by pot fields being guarded by illegals, desert habitat being destroyed with garbage, traffic.


10 posted on 11/14/2004 11:54:55 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Issaquahking
I love the environment, but I hate stupidity!

I'm with you, and I think we have chatted this subject before. There is an intrinsic value to preservation of wild spaces, but we cannot, and should not, pretend that the number and type of species that thrive or die out has ever been static, or should. In fact, subspecies have continually come and gone since the beginning of time. I believe in preserving places for wild things to thrive. Singling out and changing the environment for those subspecies who fail to adapt and thrive without our help is not only not 'nature', it is not ever gonna work.

The federal government already controls about 90 percent of the land in Nevada.

I take issue with the implication here... The fed govmt controls most of the land in Nevada, because like much of the western desert or high mountainous area, no one ever homesteaded or bought it. They owned it initially by default, not by design.

11 posted on 11/14/2004 11:56:09 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: Issaquahking; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
12 posted on 11/14/2004 12:03:19 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Issaquahking

Buckwheat...................................Bearpoppy
15 posted on 11/14/2004 12:07:10 PM PST by jrushing (Democrats=National Socialist Workers Party)
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To: Issaquahking

Land theft is right! Otherwise concerned scientists would just plant these specimens on a special farm. More evidence of liberal junk-science to propogate their agenda.


16 posted on 11/14/2004 12:08:26 PM PST by eagle11 (You can't build a party platform on a social welfare safety net most Americans hope they don't need!)
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To: Issaquahking
This is almost as stupid as the one a few years ago where the gub'mint put the kabosh on cleaning up some sewage-choked river on the California-Mexico border because there MAY BE some rare, endangered forms of bacteria in it.

This environazism is a real Trojan Horse within our gates, folks!

18 posted on 11/14/2004 12:09:19 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Issaquahking

The inmates are running the asylum.


19 posted on 11/14/2004 12:09:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Issaquahking

If we ever have enough Judges with the brains to recognize a frivilous law suit when he/she sees one, and the guts to call it what it is-and lawyers who file such such suits are 'weeded' out- teachers will no longer be the most underpaid proffessionals in America.


21 posted on 11/14/2004 12:21:02 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (No baby blood for Oily tongued Specter the Spectacle chairing the Judicial Committee!!!!!!!!)
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To: Issaquahking
What makes 'em think development will threaten the buckwheat and the bearpoppy? There are lost of areas for wild plants to grow in my neighborhood. We have lots of weedy areas.

In my experience, you can have both weeds and houses. It's not a zero-sum game.

23 posted on 11/14/2004 12:30:26 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Issaquahking

A little wildfire will take care of this worthless weed.


29 posted on 11/14/2004 2:42:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Issaquahking

I do hope the GOP is serious about meaningful reform of the ESA.


34 posted on 11/15/2004 7:09:03 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Issaquahking

Time for a little Roundup.


38 posted on 11/15/2004 9:58:32 PM PST by dc27
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To: Issaquahking
Well, I'm just happy that more land was saved from development (even if it is worthless desert fly-over wasteland).

Now if we end immigration, we won't miss not developing that land, because we won't need the extra housing, and the flight from overpopulated city sqalor to rural areas will be thereby be reduced.
58 posted on 11/17/2004 7:36:48 PM PST by Age of Reason
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