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The Failure of Communism in Vietnam
emediawire.com ^ | November 14, 2004 | Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh

Posted on 11/14/2004 6:46:34 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

It should be clear to any realistic observer of politics in Indochina that the Communist Party and the Socialist Republic have failed Vietnam and the Vietnamese people in a dramatic way. When Ho Chi Minh enticed the peasants to join his guerilla army he promised them a future in which the people would rule, where they would be free, living in uniform happiness in a communal paradise. What he delivered though was a nation ruled by the Party elite, with no freedoms, no civil rights and no personal liberty. Vietnam was robbed of its ancient heritage and forced to accept the culture of communism. Instead of a socialist paradise they have obtained only poverty, hunger and misery. These facts have become so clear and brutal that even many of the Communist Party's most ardent supporters are admitting that they have failed.

Only a short time after conquering the government in South Vietnam the communist regime in Hanoi fought a war against the People's Republic of China. They claimed to be defending Vietnam from Chinese invasion as so often happened in history. However, in recent years the Hanoi regime has given up Vietnamese territory in the north to China, freely handing over the sacred ground for which so many Vietnamese have died over the centuries. It was this outrage which caused the famous writer Nguyen Vu Binh to criticize the socialist government. What should be pointed out is that Nguyen Vu Binh was a former writer for the Communist Party Journal, but at last even he was forced to see the truth that the regime was selling out to China.

There have been many other such examples. In 1990, the leading Communist official Tran Bach Dang told the author Stanley Karnow, "Our belief in a Communist utopia had nothing to do with reality. We tried to build a new society on theories and dreams--on sand. Instead of stimulating production by giving people incentives, we collectivized them. Imagine! We even collectivized barbers. It was preposterous. We were also consumed by vanity. Because we crushed the Americans, we thought we could achieve anything. We should have heeded the old Chinese adage: 'You can conquer a country from horseback, but you cannot govern it from horseback.'" Finally the Communists must look their failure in the face and confess their mistakes.

In a similar confession the unrepentant but realistic Dr. Duong Quynh Hoa, a high leader in the VietMinh, told the same author, "I have been a Communist all my life, but now I've seen the realities of Communism, and it is a failure--mismanagement, corruption, privilege, repression. My ideals are gone." In a later meeting she voiced the same outrage saying, "Communism has been catastrophic. Party officials have never understood the need for rational development. They've been hypnotized by Marxist slogans that have lost validity--if they ever were valid. They are outrageous." Few people deny that if Dr. Hoa had not been such a famous figure from the war against America she would have been arrested for making such statements. Even the famous Colonel Bui Tin, deputy editor of the Communist Party newspaper was forced by his conscience to confess the failure of Communism and the Socialist Republican government in Hanoi.

Colonel Bui Tin in particular pointed out the most alarming problems for Vietnam in his "citizen's petition". He said, "There is an alarming deterioration of traditional ethical, moral and spiritual values (and) confusion among the youth on whom the country's future depends." Remember that this man once fought for the vision of Marxism and Ho Chi Minh, and even he was forced to see the error of his youthful judgment. The same government he fought to create he now attacked as, "Bureaucracy, irresponsibility, egotism, corruption and fraud are becoming entrenched under an insolent reign of privileges and prerogatives," It is those exact same traditional values, ethical, moral and spiritual, which the Nguyen Dynasty and the Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League are determined to see restored and defended, so that the youth of Vietnam might have a better understanding of their nation and its cultural roots.

Looking at the world at large, and the many crimes of the Vietnamese Communist Party, all free people must condemn a government that allows such things to happen. There should be no place in the modern world for such tyranny, oppression and disregard for human dignity. If even the awakened members of the Communist Party can see their mistakes and voice their protests, surely the other free Vietnamese of the world must take the same step and join with the voice of the Great Nguyen Dynasty in calling for the end of dictatorship and the establishment of a new democratic government, based on Vietnamese traditions, that will assure the rights of its people and hold government officials accountable to those who elected them.

"When we are not devoted to serve the People, we cannot have the right to ask for the favors from the nation."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: communism; southeastasia; vietnam
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To: RayChuang88
If we were to count up the number of victims of Communism during the 20th Century the death toll from mass shootings, labor camps and forced famines would probably be WAY over 100 million people. Haven't the Left of today learned from that experience?

No kidding. A hundred million is a fair guessimate.

Lefties learn? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? The underlying personality flaw in the lefties is their absolute belief in their infallibility.
That would be arrogance, wouldn't it?

41 posted on 11/15/2004 4:35:47 PM PST by starfish923
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To: starfish923
Reds.. snoozer..

No argument there.. Just using it as an example, very few have ever actually read any accounts of that time, and most no nothing whatsoever about it.. ( socialist revolution )

I too, caught on fairly young to the faults in socialism/communism..
Human nature..
Socialism/communism requires high idealism, dedication to the Ideal, conformity, and total rejection of self-interest.
A political philosophy with such rigorous requirements has no chance of success..

42 posted on 11/16/2004 6:14:14 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach

Vietnam and China have turned their backs on Communism.

Sure the Communist party still leads both countries but free market - capitalist policies are taking over the economy.

Since they started experimenting with capitalism, China and Vietnam have lead the world in economic growth with an average of 10% growth in Real GDP over the past ten years.

The leaders of the parties know there is no turning back now. The results speak for themselves.


43 posted on 11/16/2004 6:24:38 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: JustDoItAlways
I guess we will see, eventually..

Whether those leaders are concerned about leading for the benefit of the people, or their own personal power..

44 posted on 11/16/2004 6:44:08 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach
Whether those leaders are concerned about leading for the benefit of the people, or their own personal power..

Have you ever seen a "benign" communist regime?
I think that's a contradiction in terms. Communism doesn't for the existence of human nature: competition, commerce, capitalism, God, spirituality, freedom of press, religion, free expression, freedom of assemble or "certain unalienable rights." They MUST be repressive, with a large, strong, active home army because their system of government is so anti-human.

I think communist leaders are corrupted by the very idea of what communism is: a fallacy, a hopeless, arrogance of Marx's illogical thesis.

45 posted on 11/16/2004 6:27:49 PM PST by starfish923
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The failure of communism is because it can only work with nice people. The world is not nice. People are selfish, family obsessed, and with a host of other faults. They need a system like capitalism that fits these features. Competition, money, and winner takes all fit the evil world quite well. That’s why it works. It’s not that communism is wrong it’s that poeple are wrong.


46 posted on 09/21/2013 4:03:24 PM PDT by John Middlemas (People are wrong, not communism.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In a similar confession the unrepentant but realistic Dr. Duong Quynh Hoa, a high leader in the VietMinh, told the same author, "I have been a Communist all my life, but now I've seen the realities of Communism, and it is a failure--mismanagement, corruption, privilege, repression. My ideals are gone."

Therefore, we immediately implemented it in America.

SMDH

47 posted on 09/21/2013 4:06:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows; dfwgator

“We’ll do communism right” - Obama/Ayers (Castro, Chavez, Gorbachev, Mandela, Mugabe, etc, before them.)


48 posted on 09/21/2013 4:07:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When Ho Chi Minh enticed the peasants to join his guerilla army

Wait! What's this? Communism came to Viet Nam at gunpoint?

I've been told for 45 years that it was a war of American imperialism. That the protesters in Caliphony, Chicago, and Nu York, DC, et al were anti-WAR, not pro-North Vietnamese military (even though they waved around VC flags and carried pictures of Che etc.).

Hm. SO there really wasn't an anti-war movement in the 1960s. From all I've heard, there weren't American housewives protesting AGAINST the Viet Cong begging them to stop killing innocent men, women, and children and to lay down their arms and let the Vietnamese people live in peace.

49 posted on 09/22/2013 2:42:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

The other canard they throw out was that Ho was inspired by our Declaration of Independence.

The guy had been a Comintern agent since 1920, he was one of the founding members of the French Communist Party.


50 posted on 09/22/2013 2:45:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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