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Fear, loathing as bars go quietly up in smoke (New York City)
The Age ^ | November 14, 2004 | Roger Franklin

Posted on 11/14/2004 2:24:29 AM PST by Eurotwit

Like a lot of New York's straight-off-the-boat Irish barmen, Brian ("no surname, thanks") has a problem with authority, one that means keeping a weather eye on the door of the unfashionable watering hole where he slings suds from 6pm until closing time. As an undocumented alien with a tourist visa that expired more than three years ago, Brian's chief concern has always been the immigration authorities. These days, though, there is another threat to his livelihood: the Big Apple's smoking police. "It's a fookin' crime," he said, "the way those bastards behave."

The regulars at Brian's bar agreed. The talk that night last week had been of the front-page picture on the New York Post. It was a close-cropped head-shot of a young GI in Fallujah, face smeared with fatigue and camouflage paint, and a daub of what on closer examination was revealed to be a splatter of dried blood down the bridge of his nose.

The face of battle - yes, but it wasn't the 10,000-yard stare of eyes fresh from combat that had the regulars' attention. It was the just-lit cigarette dangling from the soldier's lips.

"So that's how it works," quipped Brian. "Shoot a fookin' sand goblin, win a fookin' fag."

The regulars chuckled, as Americans always do at that imported word, which means gay, and only gay, on this side of the Atlantic. But they got his drift, and one of the patrons wondered if the soldier and his M-16 might not find fruitful employment on New York's home front.

"Mr Mayor, you son of a bitch," he began, making a gun with index finger and upraised thumb, "you're dead." Then, in defiance of the Big Apple's draconian smoking laws, he exhaled a plume of ostentatious rebellion towards the yellowed ceiling. "Fook you, Mr Michael Bloomberg," added Brian.

That's the way it works these days in allegedly smoke-free New York, where the city's two-year-old smoking ban has ushered in an entirely new social ecology. At the chic bars and eateries, the ones that depend on high-volume turnover, even an unlit cigarette raised to the lips will bring an immediate warning to get the hell outside and light up on the sidewalk. With fines running as high as $2000 per violation, no eatery will risk the penalties.

But in the little neighbourhood joints, the ones that depend on regulars and locals, well, that's a different matter altogether. At first, when the ban was fresh, the hole-in-the-wall joints tried to uphold it. Trouble was, it proved financially ruinous.

One bar, Fiddler's Green on West 48th Street, had survived for decades through blackouts, crime waves and even an armed hold-up. But the smoking ban did it in. "Drinkers smoke, and the people who complain about smoking don't drink - not a lot anyway," said Brian.

So, after weighing the risks, he followed the example of barmen in scores of other low-rent joints and began distributing saucers to his late-night regulars. They have to be saucers because the mere presence of an ashtray - even a clean one - is taken as proof positive that illegal activities have been going on. Then the fines are issued.

No one is safe these days. Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter, a diehard smoker and one of New York's premier arbiters of the chic and the cool, was bailed up in his office and fined by two little men from the health department, not once but three times. In office buildings, the presence of a single squashed butt in a stairwell is taken as proof that law-breaking goes on, and the landlord is slapped with fines.

Now that muggings, rapes and murders are down by as much as three-quarters on the runaway figures of a dozen years ago, Bloomberg has adapted the zero-tolerance approach to "crimes" that never previously raised an eyebrow.

When Bloomberg, with a convert's loathing for his former vice, increased sin taxes in the five boroughs, tobacco sales soared in Long Island and New Jersey, and truckloads of cigarettes were shipped into town from Indian reservations.

Barman Brian doesn't give a fook, as he might put it, about politics. But he fully comprehends the way the world works. "I want to pay my rent, same as everyone," he said. "Here, let me give you a light."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; fook; fookin; policestate; pufflist; sandgoblins; smokingbans; smokingnazis
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To: SheLion

I think I may have figured it out. I'll contact the Marine Corps League here in Massachusetts and see if they have any info.

Thanks


41 posted on 11/15/2004 4:00:50 PM PST by Mears
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To: Dick Vomer; Argh

*Excellent* visual!

Thanks for the ping (((((Argh)))))))


42 posted on 11/15/2004 4:29:29 PM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: IStillBelieve
An illegal alien Irishman that hangs out in bars all the time? I don't know if the reporter just made him up, but if he's real he should be deported.

According to the INS (or whatever it's called today), the largest group of illegal immigrants in New York City is from Ireland. They fly in on tourist visas and never leave. Most work in construction or as bartenders.

43 posted on 11/15/2004 4:32:23 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Eurotwit
In office buildings, the presence of a single squashed butt in a stairwell is taken as proof that law-breaking goes on, and the landlord is slapped with fines.

Cool! Just empty the butts from your ashtray into a plastic baggie and "plant" them in buildings and restaraunts all over NewYork. After enough hoity toity places get fined for "evidence" of "criminal" activity going on, some of the more well heeled might start to complain to the Boss - Mayor Bloomberg.

44 posted on 11/15/2004 4:34:32 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Mears; SheLion; Gabz; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; ...
I would like to send a couple of cartons of cigs to the Marines in Iraq,no particular Marine. My brother and son were Marines so I'd like a Marine to get them.

Hey Tonk, and the Canteen crew, can you help these people out?

45 posted on 11/15/2004 4:52:30 PM PST by The Mayor ("The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave." --Patri)
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To: Nik Naym

I bet the brain trust up in Albany is just aglow with delight at your dilemma -- after all, this is the bunch who, despite their utter inability to GET A DAMNED BUDGET PASSED ON TIME (NY's budget is due on April 1. We're still waiting for this year's and NO budget has ever been passed on time in my recollection), was able to "debate" this issue in the Senate and the Assembly, pass it through both houses and get it signed by that RINO Pataki in LESS THAN 48 HOURS.

As an aside, of the three places that have folded in my neighborhood as a result of this insipid legislation, one was (surprisingly enough) a chain restaurant, one was a typical sports bar/pub type place, and the other was a stand-alone bar which had been catering to the oldtimers for at least 30 years.

There's another place that keeps closing and re-opening within the span of a few weeks. After having been under the same ownership for years and years, this place closed a few weeks after last Thanksgiving. Since then, it has changed hands no less than three times. They have a prime location right next to the LIRR station and should be doing bang-up business (they certainly USED to), but alas...they just can't keep afloat.

I truly feel sorry for the poor owners of these establishments and I am ashamed of my "representatives" for having done this to them.

The whole lot of them should have been thrown out of office this year, but thanks to the ignorance and apathy of an electorate who would know neither their names or their faces, they were all able to win re-election.

We get the government we deserve.

Regards,


46 posted on 11/15/2004 4:54:01 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: Mears; The Mayor

Smokes for Marines...

One idea I have is to check www.booksforsoldiers.com -- their main focus is (obviously) reading material, but you can get an addy for a Marine and go from there....

Hope this helps!!


47 posted on 11/15/2004 6:10:08 PM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
They've been pouring into this country for 150 years! Isn't there enough room in Ireland yet? ;-)
48 posted on 11/16/2004 3:00:39 AM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular-vote victory in history, and first popular-vote majority in 16 years!)
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To: Nik Naym

Yup.

There's a bar at our local dirt track. Every Saturday night, after the races were over, it was always SRO.

Until the smoking ban.

Now, the bar is hanging on by its thumbnails. It's virtually empty all the time. Everybody "tailgates."

It's a damn shame.


49 posted on 11/16/2004 3:09:02 AM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: SheLion

Yeh, it's amazing what the people are letting the government get away with nowadays. Just amazing.


50 posted on 11/16/2004 6:23:26 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

oh gawd....

why are they always irish...mother of God..its all some knacker in an irish bar who puts the whole nation to shame...


the hilarious thing is IRELAND copied New York...you cant smoke in abrs here either!!!!

any chance you could deport him to some other country?


51 posted on 11/16/2004 6:27:36 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!! HUH)
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To: Just another Joe
Yeh, it's amazing what the people are letting the government get away with nowadays. Just amazing.

It seems there is so much going on in the world today, Joe, that the Anti's can now sneak up behind us on back streets and no one else even notices.

People who do not smoke are asking "Smoking war? What smoking war?" Know what I mean?

52 posted on 11/16/2004 6:29:03 AM PST by SheLion (God bless and protect our troops. I love them one and all!)
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To: Irishguy
any chance you could deport him to some other country?

Well, I guess we could send him to........................England. ;^)

53 posted on 11/16/2004 6:33:11 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: StarCMC

Thanks!


54 posted on 11/16/2004 10:50:29 AM PST by Mears
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To: IStillBelieve
They've been pouring into this country for 150 years! Isn't there enough room in Ireland yet? ;-)

Well the since its mostly populated by practicing Catholics, who keep on practicing.... when one leaves, two more are born to take his place. ;-))

55 posted on 11/16/2004 12:01:47 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Just another Joe

MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

to ge honest there are too many of them there as well!

maybe siberia...or patagonia...or mars....


56 posted on 11/17/2004 12:15:27 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!! HUH)
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To: Irishguy; All

Actually to all who were wondering about sending cigarettes to the soldiers.

Fox News had a story on tonight about a radio host in Skokie Illinois named Mike North who's collecting cartons to send to them. (He collected 100,000 cigs) You can probably get in touch with him at the radio's website to see if you can mail them to him to send or whatever. Their url is: http://www.670thescore.com/

The story also featured a press conference by the local ALA Antismoker Joel Africk, who said, and I quote:

"Tobacco use presents an immediate and real danger for our soldiers who are on the lines today..." The ALA went on to say that "our troops should be sent care packages that don't kill."

An "immediate and real danger" eh? I wonder if perhaps we could arrange for Mr. Africk to spend a few few weeks walking around Fallujah educating our soldiers about the dangers they are facing from tobacco smoke?

Antismokers are sometimes their own parody.

Michael J. McFadden
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"
http://www.Antibrains.com
http://www.TheTruthIsALie.com


Member and supporter of many Free Choice groups including FORCES.org and http://www.smokersclubinc.com, but with no financial connections to ANY group in the arena.


57 posted on 12/09/2004 10:47:47 PM PST by Cantiloper (http://www.Antibrains.com)
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To: Wolfie

deportation of a sniveling pansy ass liberal mayor would be better for the free market economy this country was founded and thrives upon.


58 posted on 12/17/2004 9:51:29 AM PST by fightcityhall.net
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To: Eurotwit

deportation of a sniveling pansy ass liberal mayor would be better for the free market economy this country was founded and thrives upon.


59 posted on 12/17/2004 9:58:51 AM PST by fightcityhall.net
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Begbie was supposed to be an Irishman living in Scotland.


60 posted on 12/17/2004 10:04:56 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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