[NewRomeTacitus]

Good to see that other people are researching the issue of sovereignty. I was not only disturbed by the case that our children are "owned", but how we are also considered chattel just by trading Federal Reserve Notes (like we have any choice in the matter). Birth Certificates and Driver's Licences are challegeable? At this point that's pretty much in the realm of science fiction if you don't own your own country. Hope was extended by jury's past actions but that's nothing only fools would depend upon. We live on tenterhooks and circumstance while hoping for the best even while most of our judiciary are vague on the points Remember_Salamis has pointed out. Perhaps we subconsciously agree to live under a shared illusion of order for the overall sake of society's continuance.

[alwaysconservative]

Interesting (although long) article, but I agree that implementing the ideas it are dangerous, full stop. And the arguments about driver's licenses, car registrations, etc, are the same ones illegal aliens would use. Further, the federal government is NOT involved in child neglect or abuse cases, they are all at the state level, and the parents, not the feds, are the ones hit up for foster care. And lastly, I would hate to give up my right to vote for the President of the United States, since I would not be a federal resident.

I remember one of my battier uncles waxing forth on this topic years ago. These people go hand in hand with the "no income taxes" crowd, and have made themselves a fringe element, or viewed as the "crackpot" crowd.

[B4Ranch]

A state Citizen, also called a de jure Citizen, is an individual who is willing to accept 100% responsibility for their actions and results.

Today, not too many individuals are capable of this feat. Not being able to receive the benefits from Social Security checks, welfare checks, food stamps, federally insured bank accounts, Medicaid, Medicare, or sending the kids to publicly funded schools requires a different lifestlye.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Perhaps we subconsciously agree to live under a shared illusion of order for the overall sake of society's continuance.

That's a good way of putting it. I'm fed up with all the paperwork that came about from my mom's death. Once the government gets its nose under the tent, count on reams of paperwork and ridiculous lawyer fees. Is there anything I can do about it? Just pray that it will be over soon. It's been over a year.

The birth certificate issue is a new one to me. I've discussed the legality of drivers licenses and car registration, in the past.

[GeronL]

I guess I am a radical for believing in personal soveriegnty... which was taken to an extreme in the book Jennifer Government