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Posted on 11/13/2004 2:34:57 PM PST by neverdem
We have an annual Elmer Keith shoot; the targets are at 150 yds, and no scopes allowed - iron sights only. Most are pretty amazed at what you can do with a .22.
John Linebaugh's Six-Gun Seminar this last June saw some great results with .38 Special "plinker" loads at 500 yards, and .357 Mag at 600 yds. Folks shooting the full-house .475 and .500 loads were duly impressed!
Guns are as safe as they can be made. As with other inanimate objects, they do not rise up of their own volition and strike either out of instinct or with malice aforethought.
Do you have a link that explains the source of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services statistics. Unless they have new and better studies to base that number, they are using exaggerated numbers and blaming it all on docs. I started the thread. I'm a doc who believes in the Second Amendment.
As others have said, guns are quite safe. Unsafe guns tend not to do very well in the marketplace. The issues this clown brings up are all instances of unsafe handling practices, not unsafe guns. Strange that he doesn't propose teaching children to handle guns safely. Oh wait, the NRA already does that, and he certainly can't acknowledge THAT.
Nice graphic, otherwise!
I have a Colt .25 "vestpocket" model that uses the grip safety. It was made in 1918. Not 19th century.
Your point would make sense if it were applied equally to cars, bicycles, ladders, airplanes and every other item of manufacture which has been lawyered to death. Since this theory has not been applied in this way, it is difficult to develop a rationale as a result of which firearms are exempt from the standards applied to all other products.
Mandatory sentencing for the idiots that allow children access to guns should take care of the problem.
Attention sports fans:
The sensor/indicator of a loaded gun is a RED HERRING for law suits and lawyer seeking a new cash cow.
No matter how good it may be some fool will claim the "indicator showed unloaded" or "too hard to read".
Proper gun safety lesson number one is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS treat, assume and handle ALL guns as if loaded. Somebody hands you a gun they just checked to be empty YOU check it again. No indicator will work for a round in the chamber of an automatic without compromising safety from the explosion.
Thanks for the links Duncan. Good-to-go.
the number-one most effective gun safety measure:
a properly trained firearms operator.
the stats re: accidental discharge indicate that an NRA trained gunner is nowhere near as likely to cause such an accident as is a gunner with no NRA training. I forget the ration, but it was pretty impressive.
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This is garbage.
This was dealt with years ago.
There are some older ones that this may apply to but modern handguns will not fire unless the trigger is pulled, unless defective.
The government passed regulations requiring all handguns to pass a drop test around 1970.
The good news in that case is that Alex Penelas, who was considered THE rising star in the Florida Democratic Party, has since seen his star fizzle and will probably next be seen doing a McGreevey due to his personal predelictions. Nevertheless, his career was cut short at least partially by his advocacy of gun control for the "public health" a few years back.
Clueless.
IIRC, it's BS. His 1903 autopistol (1911 pre-cursor) lacked a grip safety.
IF they concede that handguns are a part of the fabric of American society, and they embrace this......what will be the reaction of the US public to an initiative by their leaders in Congress to push and pass legislation that would allow for total federal reciprocity for holders of concealed firearms permits under the 14th Amendment's Full Faith and Credit clause as well as the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection clause AND of course the Second Amendment? Meaning of course, that if your drivers license is good in another and all other states, so too, is your concealed weapons permit.
If they REALLY REALLY push this and successfully pass it with a majority, maybe even a super majority in House and Senate, then I'd say they have a good chance at regaining the White House next term, if their candidate also embraces the legislation. Maybe even with a comfortable majority of the votes. Even more so if they remain quiet and neutral on the issue of "assault weapons."
The difference is that traffic deaths are caused by accidents, preventable perhaps, but not deliberate acts. Most "gun deaths" are a result of someone's deliberate act. No amount of *legitimate* safety features are going to prevent those acts. Thus all the cries for "gun safety" laws, are just smokescreens for more gun control.
Nice try, but no Kewpie doll.
Not "gun safety" classes, those would become a forum for "Gun are evil" brainwashing. Shooting classes, where gun safety would be an integral part of the curriculum. Every freeman should know how to handle a gun. Just think how the presence of the "lab equipment" would tend to discourage anyone intending harm to the students in the school.
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