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The beginning of the end of abortion
World net Daily ^ | Nov 13 04 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 11/13/2004 10:51:31 AM PST by churchillbuff

Edited on 11/13/2004 11:52:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The deluge of teeth-gnashing, hair-pulling grief-tormented hysteria washing over every liberal media outlet in the Milky Way Galaxy has reached a high-water mark with space-patrol talk about secession – as in the Kerry-voting "blue" states actually seceding from the United States. Here's Geraldine Ferraro fomenting on Fox's "Hannity & Colmes" Nov. 6:

You know what? Just let me make one point. You were talking about the map before. If indeed all those blue states all got together and seceded from the union, think what would be left for those red states, nothing. There would be no educational system. You would have nothing. What would be left to you? I mean, where is all of this talent in this country? It's on both sides, the Northeast corridor.

We can shake our heads in laughable wonder at this and gloat about BDDs – Brain Dead Democrats. But their maniacally empty threat is a gift, as it creates a marvelous "teachable moment" whereby the LibDems can learn a lesson about their moral values.

Recall that it was Democrats who seceded the last time from America, in 1861. They were in full righteous fury defending the morality of slavery. Throughout the Confederate States, slavery was known as "the peculiar institution," with the moral right to own human beings as personal property unquestioned and believed in with fanatical zeal. Just like abortion in the blue states today.

Shocked that "moral values" was the issue that defeated them and re-elected President Bush, the LibDems are bleating on every airwave they can ride that they have moral values, too. Yes, they certainly do – it's just that some of those values are immoral, but not all. Confederate Southerners held many decent values – but on slavery they were morally wrong. No relativistic morals here, no "that's just your opinion" situational ethics, no wiggles, hesitations or qualifiers. Slavery is immoral, period – even the LibDems agree.

Thus the teachable moment – for abortion is morally no different than slavery, the claim that one human being may own another as personal property to be disposed of if the owner so chooses.

Thus we need to refer to abortion as "the peculiar institution," and Roe v. Wade as disgracefully unconstitutional as Dred Scott. Watch for this to happen. Watch for abortion advocates to be increasingly on the defensive as they are made to understand the moral equivalence between abortion and slavery.

This is a struggle that is going to get a lot uglier before it gets better. It will not, however, lead to any sort of secession or civil war. It requires no violence, just relentless repetition of this moral equivalence, as it finally begins to dawn on liberals that history will come to view advocacy of abortion as morally repugnant as advocacy of slavery.

Conservatives are on the verge of seizing the high ground of history on abortion. Arlen Specter -- Arrogant Arlen -- is groveling before them. Clarence Thomas will be the next chief justice. More and more politicians will see it safe to jump on the abortion=slavery bandwagon. Soon, the blood seeping from a wounded Roe v. Wade will be in the water, the feeding frenzy will be on and the constitutionally non-existent "right to privacy" chewed to shreds. The day is not that far off when school kids will be asking their history teacher puzzled questions as to how there was a time in America when people passionately defended the morality of a mother killing her own baby.

The dark chapter of America's peculiar institution of abortion is coming to an end.


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To: Popman
This struggle will only be resolved and won by blood in the streets and political blood letting

Nah. Overturning Roe V. Wade can be done by the Supreme Court. Whether it will or not is another question.

21 posted on 11/13/2004 11:44:22 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: churchillbuff

The manner in which you formatted Jack Wheeler's article makes it appear that all of the text after the colon (:) was spoken by Geraldine Ferraro.

The only portion that Ferraro said was:

"You know what? Just let me make one point. You were talking about the map before. If indeed all those blue states all got together and seceded from the union, think what would be left for those red states, nothing. There would be no educational system. You would have nothing. What would be left to you? I mean, where is all of this talent in this country? It's on both sides, the Northeast corridor."

The remainder of the article was Wheeler.

You have to learn how to post correctly!


23 posted on 11/13/2004 11:44:37 AM PST by choirboy
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To: churchillbuff

i agree that abortion is on its way out. let's not let sancioned homosexuality take its place.


24 posted on 11/13/2004 11:46:19 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: FrogMom
Ferraro said this:

"You know what? Just let me make one point. You were talking about the map before. If indeed all those blue states all got together and seceded from the union, think what would be left for those red states, nothing. There would be no educational system. You would have nothing. What would be left to you? I mean, where is all of this talent in this country? It's on both sides, the Northeast corridor."

She has got to stop drinking the Kool-Aid straight from the package. She's an educated women, she cannot possible actually think what she said is true.

25 posted on 11/13/2004 11:48:35 AM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: sinkspur
Nah. Overturning Roe V. Wade can be done by the Supreme Court.

I agree they can, I'm talking about what happens after they do, if they do.

The states will have a big mess on their hands. After all, it will become a states issue.

Do you really think liberals in some deep blue cities will not riot when this happens?

26 posted on 11/13/2004 11:52:03 AM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: Popman
Do you really think liberals in some deep blue cities will not riot when this happens?

So what if they do? They can seek to convince voters that abortion should be allowed. About half the states will, I believe, decide that abortion will be legal.

That's much better than the situation we have now.

27 posted on 11/13/2004 11:57:31 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: FrogMom
I suspect a formating problem is confusing us about what Ferraro actually said. The second paragraph is actually 2 paragraphs with Ferraro's statement being the Blue states have all the talent.

Fixed format...

"You know what? Just let me make one point. You were talking about the map before. If indeed all those blue states all got together and seceded from the union, think what would be left for those red states, nothing. There would be no educational system. You would have nothing. What would be left to you? I mean, where is all of this talent in this country? It's on both sides, the Northeast corridor."

We can shake our heads in laughable wonder at this and gloat about BDDs – Brain Dead Democrats. But their maniacally empty threat is a gift, as it creates a marvelous "teachable moment" whereby the LibDems can learn a lesson about their moral values.
28 posted on 11/13/2004 12:01:38 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: kubla

Pio here in FAGOCHUSETTS....calling in artillery on my own position.


29 posted on 11/13/2004 12:03:45 PM PST by Pio (There is no salvation outisde the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: churchillbuff

Remember Folks when Rudy G. attempts to take the stage. He will never get my vote, nor MILLIONS in the Red States for whom this will always be a litmus test.

You can't ask this of judges, but you have to answer this to voters. For further info, please read Psalm 139.


30 posted on 11/13/2004 12:11:18 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: silent_jonny
The blues are actually the reds, if you get my drift. How will the porno belt eat when they secede? And I thought that secession was the act of racists, to be put down by the might of the Federal government. I think that the birkenstockers have gone a trifle topsy-turvey. Let them keep acting like the drug addled subhumans they are so that we can get more red over the months and years.
32 posted on 11/13/2004 12:12:21 PM PST by ashtanga
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To: churchillbuff

What is needed is for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade and not outlaw abortion, but simply return the power to the states, where it belongs. Then, we can finally have the debates the Supreme Court silenced with the Roe V. Wade decision. Abortion can't stand up to an open discussion. You simply need to see the results of a late term abortion and you know it's wrong. Once you have accepted a late term abortion is wrong it is impossible to find a point at which it is acceptable.


34 posted on 11/13/2004 12:21:54 PM PST by Casloy
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To: sinkspur
"History will come to view advocacy of abortion as morally repugnant as advocacy of slavery. "

I have always been certain of this but there will be a heavy price to pay. I have a vague future projection of a time when for some cataclysmic reason birth rates are so low and human life so tenuous, that the act of aborting a child is suicidal to a vanishing human race. Only then will abortion be outlawed for centuries.

Okay sort of dramatic but there it is.

35 posted on 11/13/2004 12:22:44 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats (My screen name has come true!!!! W whipped the Dems ! Yaaaaaay!!!)
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To: Schwaeky
Actually the Whigs in the southern states were the more die-hard secessionists. Stonewall Jackson, PGT Beauregard and JEB Stuart were all staunch in the southern nationalist movement before secession saw light of day. Lee on the other hand, was a Democrat and a reluctant secessionist who only went with the south because that's the way Virginia went.

Yes, but as a result of the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas Nebraska Act of 1854 and the rise of the Republican Party, the Whig Party's lukewarm, "do anything to hold the Union together" became unappealing to its members. The anti-slavery Northerners joined up with the Republicans and the pro-slavery Southerners threw in their lot with the Democratic Party.

Don't cut the Dems any slack. :-)

Five tons of Flax,
Davis
36 posted on 11/13/2004 12:24:13 PM PST by Lobster Johnson
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To: churchillbuff
"This is a struggle that is going to get a lot uglier before it gets better."

I am afraid there will have to be a chastisement from God before people of the NARAL mentality can be dislodged from their obsession with abortion.

37 posted on 11/13/2004 12:25:29 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats (My screen name has come true!!!! W whipped the Dems ! Yaaaaaay!!!)
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To: churchillbuff

Im thinking.. you know maybe secession of those NE states, New York and California might not be a bad idea. And we could charge them one god awful toll when they wanted to cross back and forth.


38 posted on 11/13/2004 12:27:19 PM PST by JimB in Venice
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To: robertpaulsen
A woman's right is NOT ! written in the constitution,, the liberals and the MSM has lied to the American public for 31 years,, I checked it out myself,, I didn't see it any were written.
39 posted on 11/13/2004 12:29:07 PM PST by Prophet in the Wilderess
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To: Prophet in the Wilderess

correction,,, a womans right to abortion ,,,, is not in the constitution.


40 posted on 11/13/2004 12:32:32 PM PST by Prophet in the Wilderess
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