Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org
PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.
We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.
To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.
And the overriding issue is abortion.
So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.
And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.
If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.
This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.
This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.
This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.
Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.
That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.
Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.
The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.
I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.
Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.
You may need for that to be true, but it's not.
Interesting thread..however..most of the comments ignore the difference between politcal conservatives and what we may term moral absolute pro-lifers..They are not necessarily incompatible in their desire..but the methodologies differ dramatically... Assume that W gets to put three conservative judges on the SC tomorrow..all of whom are staunchly pro-life. Roe would be overturned..but not on moral grounds, that abortion is a crime...rather that Roes was bad law..finding a "right" that didn't exist in the Consitution..and it would sent the question of abortion back to the several states, for the legistatures to decide..
Yeah, but where will they take their votes? I mean really, what do they gain? By allowing their mortal enemies to get into power by not voting, do they really think that their agenda will be advanced? I hate to be redundant, but lasting change does not come through threats, and alienating those who are not as passionate as you. Take a more positive approach and try to change hearts and minds first and the change will come over time. It took decades for the civil rights movement to effect real change. The threats and scare tactics proved to be more of a hinderance then anything else.
Thanks Brother!
I'm trying to learn this from scratch so this source will help.
My question is with the majority we will have next session, why won't they exercise Article III, Section II and tell Federal Courts to cease review of abortion cases and allow State Courts to adjudicate the matter?!!
Don't be so prissy, EV. You know very well I was referring to a statement Jeff made.
Policies based on (flawed) exit polling are suspect, imho. Better to remain true to principle.
Michael Barone was right in 2000; he was right in 2002; and I'm willing to bet he's right in 2004.
You may call him flawed because it doesn't jive with your agenda, but you do so at the risk of undercutting your argument.
Michael Barone is one of the most respected political "statisticians" in this day and age.
Look, the Dem's are dying, the GOP ought to dominate political life for the next decade. BUT, if the GOP isn't careful, it will break in two. Ask the Whigs.
Please ad me to your ping list
My need has nothing to do with it.
Toss the prolifers and the Republican Coalition is finished.
Read the history of the Whigs. The parallels are amazing.
And what makes you think they are not? Just because they aren't talking about it 24/7?
And as far as Roe v. Wade, I have my doubts about whether it will be repealed -- ever; and even if it were to be appealed today, states have the right to make their own laws; abortion will never go away.
You should expend as much time changing the hearts of women as you do trashing the GOP. Or maybe even more.
Another thing what I find distate is that the unappeaseables attack people who argee with them. For example, there are constant whinings about Richard Burr and Liddy Dole not being conservative enough for them. This went on even though Jesse Helms endorsed them both. I guess they liked John Edwards representing them.
Exactly.
Are there actually any numbers on this, or is it your opinion?
I know a lot of people who wouldn't personally have an abortion, but think other people should be allowed to make up their own minds.
[I'm not asking for a discussion on whether those people are correct or not, just saying that they exist.]
If you ever figure that out, let me know.
Go ahead then, marginalize your FRiends, act on very suspect polling (btw, I'm sure Mr. Barone would tell you that, statistically speaking, his past performance means nothing wrt his future abilities - he'd also tell you polling is changing as is the demography) and go left on life, if that is what you advocate. Me, my house, we will follow Our Lord. If the GOP earns our vote, they will get it. If they betray their stated principles, they lose. Ask Geo. Nethercutt what happens when you betray your base.
I'm pro-war on terror, pro-social security reform, pro-immigration reform, pro-permanent tax cut, pro-tort reform and pro-life; but I detest multi issue voters who constantly DEMAND that their multiple views be put in front of stopping the holocaust of abortion or even slowing it down. I detest being told to sit in the back of the bus and to shut up. I detest being told that my contributions to the party are only begrudgingly tolerated. I detest being told that I either support the not-so-pro-life candidate of the moment or I'll end up with Hillary Clinton. I detest that my vote is taken for granted. I detest being told by my local GOP party chairman that I can't be the local party's volunteer webmaster (putting up only what the chairman approves) primarily because "some Republicans aren't a pro-life as you are" or that my email address which would not have been published on the website (mormondad@hotmail.com) might offend some Republicans.
If you had read some of my previous posts you will see that I disagreed with the tactic employed by CPforLife as the basis for this thread. However, that doesn't mean that I accept for one instant the treatment that we who wish to defend life receive at the hands of the Party. If it looked much like the Party was actually going to do something about this ongoing holocaust we wouldn't have people like CPforLife so upset.
We're right at the cusp of actually being able to overturn Roe v. Wade yet we're STILL having a discussion of whether we should do it or whether we should let someone like Specter - who holds Roe v. Wade inviolate - to hold one of the most powerful positions in affecting whether it can be overturned. We're not going to have this chance again for at least a decade. Bush's judicial appointments are going to be far reaching. CPforLife actually has somewhat of a point - a warning and less a threat - that if Bush and the Republicans goof this up and somehow we end up with pro-abortion judicial appointments - the simple fact is that the disenfranchised pro-life voter will stay home next time around. Not out of spite, but out of frustration. Whether that means anything to you or the Party is up to you and the Party. You can pretend all you want that you don't need that voting bloc, but you and I both know that you do.
It's kinda hard to avoid spliting the party up when some of us are playing the same "do what I say or else" game as the nincompoop libs are playing! you'd think we'd learn from the their example.
Nice try at changing the subject, EV.
We're not talking about pro-lifers; that vast majority of the people on this site ARE pro-life; we're discussing those of you who try to hold the GOP hostage with your votes.
The vast majority of US don't do that. We can see the big picture.
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