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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: Howlin

You draw a false dichotomy between Evangelicals and others.

'Hispanic(s), security moms, married men and blacks'...are all pro-life too, you know.

The overwhelming majority of Republicans are pro-life, in fact.

I watched Arlen Specter claim on national television yesterday that half of the Republican Party was 'pro-choice'. I wanted to puke.


221 posted on 11/13/2004 9:08:24 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Spiff
I wonder how God feels about it

I thought you knew.

222 posted on 11/13/2004 9:08:35 AM PST by UpToHere
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To: Howlin
In fact, Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; do you suppose they will demand something "or else?"

Yes, the Catholic, pro-life vote also contributed to George Bush's victory. Thanks for pointing that out.

223 posted on 11/13/2004 9:08:37 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Amelia

224 posted on 11/13/2004 9:09:00 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Spiff
We did turn out in big numbers and no matter how many articles from the leftist subversive New York Times that you post won't change that fact.

No you didn't; no matter how many times you say it to further your agenda.

225 posted on 11/13/2004 9:10:02 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Why don't you then address the facts and figures in the article, rather than attacking the source? What you just did amounts to a concession of the facts stated in the article.

I concede nothing to the New York Times. I refuse to read their garbage. You can't trust ANYTHING they say. They make up what they want to make up, spin things to support their leftist agenda, etc. They have no credibility - using their numbers, articles, statements, etc. is worthless to your argument.

226 posted on 11/13/2004 9:11:47 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Always Right

Hey AR,

Didn't you recieve the invitation to this party?! Come on over! LOL


227 posted on 11/13/2004 9:12:45 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Spiff

So, when all those Hispanics Catholics voted Democrat in the past, they were pro-choice?


228 posted on 11/13/2004 9:12:48 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Howlin

[You're the ones demanding that Bush do what you say or you'll leave the party.]

Here we go again. The timeless debate on FR. For every unappeaseable President Bush loses, he gains 2 swing voters. This forumla is the reason why the GOP controls the White House and Congress.


229 posted on 11/13/2004 9:13:13 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: EternalVigilance

Abortion was NOT the key issue in this election.

There certainly are many diverse groups who are pro-life; but it's only the Evangelicals who are now claiming that they are OWED something in return for a huge turnout that didn't materialize or they will take their votes elsewhere.


230 posted on 11/13/2004 9:13:39 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Spiff

It's difficult to find the truth with your eyes squeezed shut.


231 posted on 11/13/2004 9:13:43 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Howlin

I am pro-life; but I detest one issue voters who constantly DEMAND that their views be put in front of everybody else's "or else."



Here here. Threats are not the way to convince people in this country. This lesson has been demonstrated for us by the liberals time and time again. can anyone say "gay marriage?"


232 posted on 11/13/2004 9:14:38 AM PST by buddyholly
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To: Drammach
You readily admitted yourself, that prior to Roe, women were having abortions illegally.. often at the cost of their own lives.. You would force them to go back to that method..

Very few, the leader of the pro-abortion movement at the time Roe was decided admitted as much . As for forcing them to go back to that method GOOD I feel no sympathy for the criminal that dies while in the commission of a crime.

233 posted on 11/13/2004 9:15:06 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: Kuksool

The thing that is so distasteful is that they insist that THEIR agenda be consider to the exclusion of all others.


234 posted on 11/13/2004 9:15:06 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

The numbers you cite from the NYT are a red herring.

In the context of the current debate, the question is not how many evangelicals voted, but how many pro-lifers.

And there can be no doubt that the overwhelming majority of the President's votes were cast by pro-lifers.

GOP leaders ignore them at their own peril.


235 posted on 11/13/2004 9:15:26 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Aloysius88
If we lose interest or lose heart the party will be greatly the weaker for it.

Actually, the party would be much stronger if it could get rid of you guys. Whatever votes the party would lose, it would gain twofold as many otherwise conservative people vote democratic because they are pro-choice.

The Republican party is dependent on you guys now because they've ran off all of the pro-choice conservatives. You guys showed your loyalty in 2000 by staying home after Bush's DUI arrest was made public.

If the conservative movement could some how become less dependent on you guys, we could win over millions of others that you guys currently alienate and scare.

You think you guys swung the election? See how many votes Bush would have gotten if he had proposed a national health care system or proposed rolling back the tax cuts. See how many votes Bush would have gotten if he had proposed the idea of a 'global test' for determining our military actions. Only nut jobs put abortion as the #1 issue. While Most people (even conservatives) don't even care all that much.

If the republican party changed its platform to pro-choice tomorrow, they'd do just as well in 2008 as without you. In fact, I predict the republicans will lose the house and senate in 2006 because you guys are making so much noise that it scares off the non-nutjob conservatives. After that, where will you guys be? You think you'll get any pro-life choices affirmed after that?
236 posted on 11/13/2004 9:16:09 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Howlin
Hispanic, security moms, married men and blacks turned out in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; don't you think their demands should be given just as much thought as you?

I've seen it stated that the Hispanic and Black voters switched to Bush because of the values issues like the pro-life issue. I'm a married man and I voted for Bush mostly on the pro-life justices and judges issue. That leaves security moms - how many of them do you think are pro-life? The fact is that the vast majority of Bush voters are pro-life and they expect him to advance the pro-life cause - some more than others.

237 posted on 11/13/2004 9:16:11 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: narses
Read this thread please and see the threats against the pro-life community. Either we drop our "extremism" or we are barred from political life.

What I saw was a threat that if your "extremism" wasn't adopted by the entire party, you would leave the party - thus barring yourselves from political life.

238 posted on 11/13/2004 9:16:17 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Theodore R.

In a world of moral relativism Truth is extreme.


239 posted on 11/13/2004 9:16:27 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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