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Holland's Deadly Tolerance
The Weekly Standard ^ | November 22, 2004 issue | Christopher Caldwee

Posted on 11/12/2004 10:08:51 PM PST by AZLiberty

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After decades of trying to fight social problems with ever more tolerance, the Dutch are at a loss before terrorism. Queen Beatrix limited her involvement to visiting immigrant kids at a Moroccan "youth center." This was hardly what public opinion was clamoring for. At this point, the Dutch seem more inclined to move from Live and Let Live to its opposite, and are calling for laws that make the Patriot Act look like Kumbayah. Strict laws against government surveillance over religious establishments, a centuries-old inheritance from the United Provinces' battle against Spanish occupation, appear set to go by the boards. On Friday, the Dutch parliament requested a new law that would forbid mosques to employ imams who had been educated elsewhere. One member of parliament was quoted in a wire report as saying: "It's better to have 10 possibly innocent people temporarily in jail than one with a bomb on the street."

It seems one dead artist stirs up more fuss than 3000 dead New Yorkers.

1 posted on 11/12/2004 10:08:52 PM PST by AZLiberty
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Oops, typo in the author field. Should be "Caldwell".


2 posted on 11/12/2004 10:10:44 PM PST by AZLiberty ("Insurgence" is futile.)
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Holland has a historical "tolerance" for diversity.

Remember, the Pilgrims resided for several years in Holland before making the trip to America.


3 posted on 11/12/2004 10:12:31 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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De Hoop Scheffer met President Bush on Wednesday; the following day, in an interview in New York, he warned that there is a gap between the United States and Europe in their perceptions of the terrorist threat. "If the gap is to be bridged," he added, "it has to be done from the European side."

best lines in the article. once again, when america stands up for what is right, it does draw a followership, albeit sometimes late.

4 posted on 11/12/2004 10:18:40 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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There are alot of religious groups that drifted into the Netherlands over the past 400 years. But ask yourself this...if you were a "good" Muslim...why even think about moving to a non-Muslim country? Evidentally...they prioritized their lifestyle, and preferred western living...but now, they have reprioritized their lifestyle again to indicate that the Muslim religion outrules society rules. This situation is a deadend. Muslims who are true to their faith...can't live in a totally free society...and they surely can't allow western law to govern them.

The Muslims in the Netherland may total almost 5 percent of the population...but they have no future. They are destined to return to the countries they started out from.


5 posted on 11/12/2004 10:20:15 PM PST by pepsionice
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Correct. Either of their own free will, or they will eventually be forcibly removed.

The civilized world can no longer tolerate savagery in our midst. The potential consequences are truly horrifying.


6 posted on 11/12/2004 10:23:13 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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Europeans are only now beginning to understand what many Americans understand: It one thing to enact "enlightened" policies in a homogeneous society and quite another in a heterogeneous society.
7 posted on 11/12/2004 10:23:39 PM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack...Bull Halsey)
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It seems one dead artist stirs up more fuss than 3000 dead New Yorkers.

good point. i think that the dutch population realizes that the terror is from within. on 9/12 i am not sure america was on that wavelength. it took us a while to come to that conclusion as a nation, and even now the conclusion is continually challenged by leftists.

i realize that you are speaking of the european's reaction and i am speaking of our reaction. i believe that european nations have been on our side against al-qaeda, and i think that 9/11 did cause quite a reaction over there. when you get right down to it, france, germany and spain are the only "problem children" in nato when discussing the war in iraq.

8 posted on 11/12/2004 10:26:03 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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"Van Gogh, on the other hand, had been a loud--one could even say obnoxious--critic of Islam. He had referred to Muslims as "goatf--ers""

Islam, bringing love to farm animals since 610 AD.


9 posted on 11/12/2004 10:27:01 PM PST by MonaMars
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Toleration goes so far, and then reaches a limt.


10 posted on 11/12/2004 10:27:03 PM PST by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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"It seems one dead artist stirs up more fuss than 3000 dead New Yorkers."

Yes, when it happens to them it's a whole new kettle of fish.

11 posted on 11/12/2004 10:29:57 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: AZLiberty
Van Gogh, on the other hand, had been a loud--one could even say obnoxious--critic of Islam. He had referred to Muslims as "goatf--ers"
13 posted on 11/12/2004 10:35:33 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
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To: pepsionice

They are destined to return to the countries they started out from.
WRONG ..Their plan is to populate Europe..Osama said it up front ..Dont be naive..


15 posted on 11/12/2004 10:42:53 PM PST by hineybona
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To: AZLiberty

"Welcome to the party, pal!"

16 posted on 11/12/2004 11:03:58 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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PING.


17 posted on 11/12/2004 11:05:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Aren't we all glad that john kerry isn't president?)
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To: AZLiberty
"It's better to have 10 possibly innocent people temporarily in jail than one with a bomb on the street."

Gasp! How insensitive of them! And smart! Would that Americans had this attitude instead of the opposite view.

19 posted on 11/12/2004 11:34:19 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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I think the Dutch are waking up. My terrorism website has been getting hit from Holland all week.
20 posted on 11/12/2004 11:36:34 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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