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Hatred engulfs a liberal land
The Times (UK) ^ | 11/13/04 | Anthony Browne

Posted on 11/12/2004 9:29:26 PM PST by saquin

THE rural Dutch town of Uden, a patchwork of landscaped parks and modern suburban housing, seems a paradise of affluent tranquillity until you see the charred remains of Bedir Islamic primary school.

The only things left standing of this former model of state-funded religious education are the blackened brick walls. Inside, all that remains of the 120 sets of children’s chairs are metal frames crumpled by the heat of the inferno, the work of racist arsonists.

A father of Turkish origin, entering the nearby Suleymaniye mosque with his young daughter, asked angrily: “How do you explain it to her? That someone burnt down her school because they hate her?”.

Ismail Taspinar, the school’s director, told The Times: “We are very deeply shocked, angry, frightened. The parents don’t understand it. They feel it is an attack on their community, on their religion, on peace and democracy.”

The tiny Islamic community of Uden, just 1,200 Turks and Moroccans in a town of 40,000, are victims of what Jan Peter Balkenende, the Dutch Prime Minister, calls a “maelstrom of violence”.

In just over a week, a country widely regarded as a paragon of tolerant liberalism has been transformed into a cauldron of religious and ethnic violence.

In reprisals and counter-reprisals, more than 20 mosques, churches, Islamic and Christian schools, and Muslim community centres have been attacked in a wave of petrol bombings and vandalism.

Half a dozen politicians, accused of being “enemies of Islam” have received death threats, and two have gone into police safe houses.

Yesterday, police arrested 39 suspects as they closed down what appeared to be a training camp for Kurdish separatists in the southern village of Liempde. Earlier in the week, the Government sent special forces to arrest an Islamic cell in The Hague. Three officers were hurt during the 15-hour siege as they came under attack from grenades and gunfire.

The Netherlands is in shock, with fear gripping communities and turning neighbour against neighbour. “Hate is spreading across the country like wildfire,” the popular daily newspaper Algemeen Dagblad said in a front-page editorial.

The national trauma was sparked by what is now being dubbed the “Dutch September 11” — the ritualist murder and near-beheading in an Amsterdam street of Theo van Gogh, a film-maker and critic of Islam.

It was the second murder of a prominent critic of Islam after the shooting of the anti-immigration populist Pim Fortuyn two years ago. But he was killed by a native Dutch activist, whereas Mr van Gogh was killed in an act of jihad.

“Holy war has come to the Netherlands, ” Jozias van Aartsen, the Dutch parliament’s Speaker, said.

An Amsterdam court extended yesterday the detention of a 26-year-old Dutch-Moroccan charged with Mr van Gogh’s murder and four others charged with membership of a terrorist group and conspiracy to murder Mr van Gogh.

A note pinned with a knife to the film-maker threatened Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a liberal member of parliament with whom Mr van Gogh made a film about violence against women in Muslim society, and criticised two other politicians.

The Government introduced tough anti-immigration rules after Fortuyn’s murder, and has this time pledged to deport Islamic extremists and to require all imams in mosques to be Dutch.

Queen Beatrix visited a Moroccan youth centre in Amsterdam yesterday in an attempt to lower tensions, but public attitudes have hardened sharply. Polls show that 90 per cent believe the Netherlands is now less tolerant, with 47 per cent admitting that they are more hostile to Islam since Mr van Gogh’s murder. About 40 per cent “hope” that Muslims no longer feel welcome in the Netherlands.

“Fear is ruling Holland at the moment — both Muslims and non-Muslims are afraid,” said Yassim Hertog, co-ordinator of the group Islam and Citizenship, which tries to promote Muslims in Dutch society.

“People are afraid that the Muslim next door is their enemy. Muslims who are fully integrated suddenly find their colleagues and neighbours didn’t really think of them as part of ‘us’.”

The Dutch are now asking how their multicultural experiment could have gone wrong. Nabil Marmoush, chairman of the Dutch branch of the radical Arab European League, which opposes assimilation, blamed “Muslim-bashing” by politicians such as Fortuyn, who declared the Netherlands “full”.

“The mosque and the Islamic school have become the symbol of the enemy,” he said. “A lot of people have seen this coming. You could see the tension in society.”

But many Dutch are concluding that Mr van Gogh and Fortuyn have been vindicated. At the site of Mr van Gogh’s murder, among the thousands of flowers and candles, a sign reads: “Theo rests his case.”

Geert Plas, a teacher paying his respects, said: “He was trying to warn us about the dangers of radical Islam. Now maybe we will listen.”

One of the first to predict the crisis was Paul Scheffer, professor of urban sociology at Amsterdam University. He wrote in 1999: “None of the unspoken expectations, such as the idea that integration was simply a matter of time, have turned out to be right. So the house of cards known as multiculturalism collapses.”

The fabled Dutch tolerance, he said, was just a code for people ignoring other communities, living parallel but separate lives. But with mainly Muslim ethnic minorities reaching 50 per cent in the main cities it is no long possible to ignore what is happening. Rita Verdonk, the country’s hardline Immigration Minister, admitted: “We must ask ourselves if we have not been naive over the past few years.”

The question everyone is asking, but no one dares answer, is: What will happen if there is another assassination or terrorist attack?


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To: GOP Jedi

Some Dutch person ratted on Ann FRank.


41 posted on 11/12/2004 10:19:18 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: hineybona

Germany can't with any credibility blame the U.S. They have had a problem with the Turkish gasterbeiters for more than a decade. Just nothing with the drama of a van Gogh murder.


42 posted on 11/12/2004 10:20:01 PM PST by phelanw
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To: hineybona

Where did they fight?


43 posted on 11/12/2004 10:20:29 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: quantim
Reminds of an article I read after 9/11. A wealthy muslim women here in the US was sharing conversations she had with her friends. She and others were afraid that Americans would hunt them down and kill them.

How little she understood about us. And her lack of understanding was due to a failure of assimilation as I see it.

Many Americans felt like hunting them down and killing them, but we do not do those kind of things.

Not until we start experiencing the Dutch extremes at least.

44 posted on 11/12/2004 10:21:01 PM PST by highpockets
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To: phelanw

Germany has no credibility ..They will try ..


45 posted on 11/12/2004 10:21:32 PM PST by hineybona
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To: phelanw

P.S., my German spelling is suspect. Turkish guest workers.


46 posted on 11/12/2004 10:21:56 PM PST by phelanw
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To: nothernlights

Read a little. You won't display quite so much ignorance.


47 posted on 11/12/2004 10:26:46 PM PST by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: highpockets

Hunting who down and killing who? Our country needs your help to fight this cancer called terrorism. If you want to kill people join the army, not a mob.


48 posted on 11/12/2004 10:29:59 PM PST by SBOinTX
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To: Kiss Me Hardy

Well go ahead diplay your knowledge.Name 1 battle. But I know because I visited some of the cemetaries in Europe where canadians died in 2 WW.


49 posted on 11/12/2004 10:31:29 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: hineybona

why don't they just go back home.?
WHY ? Because that's NOT the plan .People ignore Osama ..He said , up front , that he will populate Europe and thats exactly what he's doing .Think Holland is bad ? Take a trip to Belgium and see whats there."

(from article)
Yassim Hertog, co-ordinator of the group Islam and Citizenship, which tries to promote Muslims in Dutch society.



You're absolutlely right, hineybona!! That's exactly what their plan is!!!


50 posted on 11/12/2004 10:31:55 PM PST by Ros42
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To: Ros42

I've seen the Moslem population grow rapidly in Holland in the short 7/8 years I've been going there ..Belguim is like being in Arabia now..Entire little towns , all over the country side ,are Islamic .


51 posted on 11/12/2004 10:36:26 PM PST by hineybona
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To: hineybona

That's scary!!


52 posted on 11/12/2004 10:52:25 PM PST by Ros42
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To: saquin
A father of Turkish origin, entering the nearby Suleymaniye mosque with his young daughter, asked angrily: “How do you explain it to her? That someone burnt down her school because they hate her?”.

Ismail Taspinar, the school’s director, told The Times: “We are very deeply shocked, angry, frightened. The parents don’t understand it. They feel it is an attack on their community, on their religion, on peace and democracy.”


53 posted on 11/12/2004 10:57:00 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: saquin
The Dutch are now asking how their multicultural experiment could have gone wrong.

Maybe they should have researched islam before they let the hordes in. Then they would have realized that islamic fundementalists intend to turn the country into an islamofascist hellhole.

54 posted on 11/12/2004 11:00:38 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: saquin
The question everyone is asking, but no one dares answer, is: What will happen if there is another assassination or terrorist attack?

The question everyone should be asking is when are the so-called moderates going to denounce the terrorts and police themselves rather than worrying about the response of the civilized world? Their silence is deafening.
55 posted on 11/12/2004 11:04:44 PM PST by Blowtorch
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“Hate is spreading across the country like wildfire,”

Better late than never.

56 posted on 11/12/2004 11:06:25 PM PST by LibWhacker (FOUR MORE YEARS!!)
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To: SBOinTX

I was not advocating, not my intent. There are people who may, not I.


57 posted on 11/12/2004 11:06:33 PM PST by highpockets
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To: Wonderama

To quote Ethan Edwards, "that'll be the day..."


58 posted on 11/12/2004 11:23:12 PM PST by jonascord (What is better than the wind at 6 O'Clock on the 600 yard line?)
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To: nothernlights

Start here:

http://www.godutch.com/windmill/newsitem.asp?id=295 for a month by month account of Holland under occupation, the resistance, and, eventually, liberation.

Then get a copy of "Between Silk and Cyanide", which is the biography of a Brit cryptographer in charge of the section running Dutch agents, among other things. Its incidental accounts of suicidal heroism among Dutch agents returning to their homeland might change your mind.

If your yardstick is battles and war graves, your can rest easy, because there wasn't time for too many set piece battles. Holland was overrun in four days and Rotterdam blitzed, although estimates vary on the actual civilian death toll, ranging from as low as 1000 to 20,000. For details on the hopelessly outmanned, outgunned and outmaneuvred Dutch army and the spirited fight it put up, read the first chapters of "The Race for the Rhine Bridges" by Alexander McKee.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0285636030/wwwlink-software-21/026-7699111-8466038

Dutch forces that escaped the Nazi invasion fought their way to Dunkirk and were evacuated with the Brits, who amalgamated and reformed them as the Princes Irenes. You can read a thumbnail history of the unit and its part in Europe's liberation here:

http://www.gunsandbugles.co.uk/princess-irene.htm

You could also Google up some info on Dutch colonial forces under MacArthur and their actions in the Pacific, which were entirely creditable.

Incidentally, none of the above should be taken as "airing my knowledge." Consider it the needed correction of a very silly slur on a decent and brave people who suffered extensively and, when able, fought with determination and bravery. Your original observation was unworthy -- and you'd best hope Dutch Freeper Knighthawk doesn't see it, because you will have a lot more reading matter to plow through.


59 posted on 11/12/2004 11:26:47 PM PST by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: Kiss Me Hardy

Between Silk and Cyanide is a MUST read for a number of reasons. Witty, exciting, moving. Leo Marks also sheds light on a number of historical controveries (among those the Dutch Underground).

The reason for the US/UK distrust of the Free French was in large part due to de Gaulle's unwillingness to modernize and secure their totally useless code system.


60 posted on 11/12/2004 11:33:50 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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