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They hate us, say fleeing French
ww.smh.com.au ^ | November 13, 2004 | Jon Henley in Paris

Posted on 11/12/2004 8:00:34 AM PST by Ginifer

Some 1600 French people arrived at Roissy-Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris with tales of fear and horror after days of anti-French attacks in the Ivory Coast.

Most of the evacuees had left behind their homes and their livelihoods, often after many years in Africa.

Helene, who lived for 32 years in Abidjan running a printing business, told French radio: "We spent five hours on the roof, listening to them taking our apartment to pieces and then breaking everything they couldn't remove. Our life is there; we have nothing in France. The radio was screaming at everyone to rid themselves of the 'imperialist pigs', the 'Satans'."

"There is so much hatred in their faces. Why? We have many, many Ivorian friends. Why so much anti-French hatred?"

At least four people were taken to hospital on arrival, and psychologists waited to offer help if needed.

Christophe Larouille, from Angers, said: "We've been through 'hunt the white man'.

"I was lucky; the helicopter landed almost on my lawn, in the middle of the night. AdvertisementAdvertisement

"There was a knock on my door, and a voice said, 'You've got three seconds to make your mind up.' I took off sitting on a pile of ammunition, like in a film. I saw someone who had lost an eye. The soldiers said there were deaths, people had been decapitated, women had been raped."

Jose, a 67-year-old administrator, emerged into the arrivals hall bringing with him just the clothes he was wearing: "A pair of espadrilles, a pair of shorts, two T-shirts and a briefcase that my neighbours managed to rescue by some miracle," he said.

He told Le Monde: "I was attacked twice over the weekend. The first time I managed to talk them out of it, helped with money and a bottle of whisky. When they came back I took refuge in the home of some African friends. My house was looted and completely sacked. They turned up with trucks. There's not a needle left."

A French official said between 4000 and 8000 of its 14,000 citizens wanted to leave, a number that would make it one of the largest evacuations of Africa's post-independence era.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; frogs; ivorycoast
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To: FrankRepublican

The EU is not America's friend...


61 posted on 11/12/2004 8:41:47 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Ginifer
Jose, a 67-year-old administrator, emerged into the arrivals hall bringing with him just the clothes he was wearing: "A pair of espadrilles, a pair of shorts, two T-shirts and a briefcase that my neighbours managed to rescue by some miracle," he said.

Thank God he managed to find his espadrilles instead of those tacky huaraches.

No, the situation itself is not funny but the general bewilderment of the French is painfully ironic.
62 posted on 11/12/2004 8:44:28 AM PST by Buttaboom (I didn't play Dungeons and Dragons all those years and not learn a little something about courage.)
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To: A. Patriot
If you haven't noticed lately, several countries in Africa have been ethnically cleansing their countries.

And after the "cleaning", the locals discover that nothing works anymore...telephones don't work, power shortages etc...Look at South Africa.....There is always a slide backward to the way it was before "the whites" came to build the society...

Just a fact

63 posted on 11/12/2004 8:47:37 AM PST by squirt-gun
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To: Naspino

Me too, thought it referred to remarks made by French fleeing the US.

But I hope they can restore some sort of order over there, I feel bad for the families in danger.


64 posted on 11/12/2004 8:48:18 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: ApesForEvolution

One day the Jihadists will be running through the streets of Paris cutting off heads.

The French will be saying the same thing. "I had friends who are Muslims but they raped my wife and cut my son's head off"

Anyone who thinks it won' happen has been ignoring what is happening in Holland and the UK plus Malmo Sweden. The muslims are rampaging yet but soon.


65 posted on 11/12/2004 8:48:47 AM PST by FrankRepublican (Arlen Specter = Ted Kennedy Dem Bush = Open Borders w/ Mexico)
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To: FrankRepublican

Yes, the darkness feeds upon itself...


66 posted on 11/12/2004 8:49:42 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: squirt-gun

Well said. I have many friends of African birth that say the same things...and they aren't white Africans...


67 posted on 11/12/2004 8:51:10 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Ginifer
"There was a knock on my door, and a voice said, 'You've got three seconds to make your mind up.' I took off sitting on a pile of ammunition, like in a film. I saw someone who had lost an eye. The soldiers said there were deaths, people had been decapitated, women had been raped."

Nope. Don't believe you!
68 posted on 11/12/2004 8:52:51 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: Ginifer

Yep


69 posted on 11/12/2004 8:53:39 AM PST by Skooz (Kerry Voters = Parasites of Freedom: 56,936,504 Americans obeyed Osama's orders)
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To: Ginifer

Why does this always happen in French colonies?

Do the French have any ability to reflect on themselves objectively?


70 posted on 11/12/2004 8:55:02 AM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: A. Patriot

I think it is a bit of Both. The French seem to leave a stain wherever they go.


71 posted on 11/12/2004 8:57:14 AM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Ginifer
The state of the decolonized regions of the planet is bad and rapidly getting worse.

We are blinded to reality by two things-one, the rhetoric of "developing" nations; and two, the fantasy that the governments of the "countries" bear any relationship to what goes on in their designated territories.

First of all, there are no "developing" nations that are actually developing-most of them are regressing into barbarism as rapidly as possible, a few are sliding nto savagery a little more slowly.

Secondly, the borders run among various tribes and larger extended-family groupings which do not recognize their citizenship in these political fantasy creatures, whose only real existence is at their UN embassies and in the minds of pathetically deluded Westerners.

A worldwide commercial empire cannot and will not coexist with a planetary ghetto whose savages are armed with modern weapons.

What's happening in Ivory Coast is the future. Not for nothing is West Africa called the white man's graveyard.

72 posted on 11/12/2004 9:04:35 AM PST by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: Ginifer

It's America's fault, naturally: All those ads for soap and toothepaste must have had an effect on the locals.


73 posted on 11/12/2004 9:07:43 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: Ginifer
The people being brutalized had nothing to do with the formation of public policy, nor do they bear any guilt for French arrogance - they don't even vote there. They're victims, period, and I'm sorry for them.

Hatred is so very easy to build, and so very difficult to put out. Whether it's anticolonialism or racism or simple economic envy - in this case I'd guess there's an element of each - it is alarming how quickly harsh words escalate to violence, robbery and rapine. It isn't just the Africans - "decent" Germans behaved this way when similar sentiments were directed at the Jews.

I take a couple of lessons from this. First, that those who foster and nurture hatred and incite violence should be held responsible for the results. In practice this is impossible, I'm sorry to say. Lovely idea, but impossible, and the fact that we've had to chase Nazis for half a century in order to obtain a small, partial justice demonstrates it. The other lesson is that individuals capable of defending themselves and of banding together for mutual defense in such times have the best chance of surviving them. Yes, this means weapons. Wield them or die on them. This is not an uncivilized approach; it is, on the contrary, the very essence of civilization. What is uncivilized is to be in a position only to be a victim.

74 posted on 11/12/2004 9:09:25 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Ginifer
Fleeing French, where have I heard that before?
75 posted on 11/12/2004 9:09:28 AM PST by Gumption
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To: FrankRepublican
It looks like the Dutch may fight back.

I wonder what the Dutch would be doing if 3,000 of them had been killed, like what happened on 9/11, rather than that one man?

76 posted on 11/12/2004 9:12:55 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Ginifer

France, where's your coalition? You'll have to go it alone.


77 posted on 11/12/2004 9:13:04 AM PST by balk (Martin's goin' down (just you wait!))
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To: Ginifer
Like I heard on the radio yesterday:

"Roses are red

Violets are blue

France sucks

And that's about it"

78 posted on 11/12/2004 9:13:24 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: saveliberty

Thank you! Perhaps you could expound a bit.

Weren't the French basically siding with and protecting northern rebel Muslim factions, which had been attacking the non-muslims?

My understanding is that when the Ivory Coast govt was retaliating and driving the muslim rebels out of the country, French "peacekeepers" interceded to protect them.

Is that correct?


79 posted on 11/12/2004 9:17:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: A. Patriot
I don't think it has anything to do with nationality, it has everything to do with race.

It has to do with the fact that the French have forced the democratically elected government of Ivory Coast to accept a so-called unity government with a Muslim rebel group that has ties to international terrorism.

But, hey, go ahead and try to paint this as some sort of racial thing.

80 posted on 11/12/2004 9:24:01 AM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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