Two Sides to Global Warming

Reason ^ | November 10, 2004 | Ronald Bailey

[neverdem]

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.

[mountainlyons]

The sun is hotter than ever before. One Volcano in the Philippines gave off more gas than the who industrial revolution so we are going to reverse the trend by no more cars. NOT A CHANCE!!!

[ZGuy]

Rather obviously there was a significant warming to ~1940 (series max 1938, prior to any significant atmospheric CO2 increase), followed by a cooling persisting into the 1970s (great global cooling scare) and a subsequent recovery to temps similar to those seen 65 years previously. Total zonal warming over 65 years? -0.06°C

[Lakeshark]

In the global warming controversy, there is supposed to be a famous green scientist who, after studying it in an attempt to prove it, came to the conclusion that the theory is bunk. Do you know who that is and how to link to good information of his findings?

[VOA]

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[neverdem]

I don't know.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

Bjorn Lomborg

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

Lomborg doesn't actually think that Global Warming itself is bunk. He thinks that it (along w/ many other similiar "theories") has been wildly overblown and that the environmentalists' cure, ie. Kyoto Treaty, will be worse than the disease.

[Calvin Locke]

I worked with an ecologist-turned-programmer around 1981.

He was telling me about the krill drying up then, but due to overfishing by some Asian country, iirc.

[LoneGOPinCT]

I, for one, am hoping for global warming and that it will hurry up and get here. Boating season is way too short up here in New England because of the cold and with the higher water levels, we'll have new and exciting places to visit. It'd be like Venice right in our backyard!

Actually, until these "climatologists" can answer for me 1)"Who affected the climate to start the Ice Age?" and 2)"Who affected the climate to end the Ice Age?" I will continue to take their findings and analysis as pure bullpucky.

[raybbr]

What about the report on the Antarctic krill? The shrimp-like krill are the foundation of the food chain in the oceans around Antarctica, being dined upon by whales, seals, fish, and penguins. The report finds that krill populations off the Antarctic Peninsula have declined by 80 to 90 percent in recent years.

...other factors which may affect the organism include an increase in predation...

Didn't we seriously reduce whale hunting since the late '70s? Aren't seals, penguins, whales, etc. protected species which would mean their populations would increase meaning they would eat more krill?

[frankenMonkey]

you make a good point. let's say global warming is a fact (man-made or not.) seems that there would be just as many good/beneficial effects as bad ones, but we never hear about it.

[neverdem]

What is a Radiosonde?

[Gingersnap]

Working in air quality, I see how policy makers and politicians use and abuse science every day.

Environmental models are very dicey. We use and create models to predict air quality. They are generally accurate 1 or 2 years out but decline steeply after that. You just can't add enough inputs to ensure accuracy.

But that won't stop a policy wonk from using highly suspect projections at the 15 year mark. They are always wrong but by then, they've moved on.

[alwaysconservative]

Bjorn Lomborg wrote an incredible book called "The Skeptical Environmentalist". As far as I am concerned, it should be must-reading for all conservatives, no, for EVERYBODY! He debunks all the politically-motivated junk science theories. He doesn't say that global warming doesn't exist, just says it could be due to other factors AND that the "remedy" is worse than the disease. Get yourself that book ASAP; you'll never regret it. It comes in handy when I'm debating liberals on my dearly-held environmental issues, LOL! P.S. It could be a valuable tool in converting liberals, and we can use all of those we can find.

[alwaysconservative]

That's one of the points Bjorn Lomborg makes: global warming can have as many beneficial effects as deleterious ones.

[Jack of all Trades]

mark

[Rakkasan1]

longer growing season here in MN for one thing.
then we can grow more corn , make more ethanol ,sell more
corn cars and make Paul Harvey very happy!

[GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos]

What about increased sun-spot activity??? My brother read an article stating that sun-spot activity is in a 60 year cycle that is the highest in 1,000 years. Sorry I can't show the article or verify this - just a possibility???