[mhking]

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[FITZ]

But where are those numbers coming from? Aren't they from the exit polls? The exit polls also showed Kerry won the election. I'd wait until the precinct by precinct analysis is done. Exit polls are skewed --- they tend to be done in certain neighborhoods and too few numbers. I've never seen exit pollers outside the precinct here.

[FormerACLUmember]

The "hispanic community" is ALREADY reaping the benefits of their massive swing to Republican votes (40-50%) in the form of the new Attorney General. The blacks continue to be slaves on the democrat party plantation, not fundamentally different from their status as democrat party slaves in 1840. Pathetic.

[Netizen]

Just goes to show 'brainwashing' is difficult to overcome.

[traviskicks]

"I voted for John Kerry because that's what my personal take on issues and priorities led me to do."
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lol I'd like to hear what those issues and priorities were.

[kittymyrib]

Blacks in general will not figure it out. They are "victims" and intend to stay that way. Even this "enlightened" author voted for Kerry, so why is he in a position to give advice to others? Forget about them. They are a shrinking minority, thanks to prison and abortion. Republicans should concentrate on Latinos who have much more going for them and are the minority block of the future.

[MortMan]

"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all groups are created equal..."

Wait a minute - That's not quite right, is it??

Oh - That's right!!! All MEN are created equal!!!

Groupthink is a disservice to every individual in the group. Until each group starts to promote individual thought and self-made decisions, the group serves only to enslave its members.

This applies equally to ethnic and political groups, IMHO.

[Tula Git]

Isn't it interesting that 20% of the voters comprised of 4 groups voted 90% Kerry.

What's even more interesting is that 2 of those groups, JEWS and MUSLIMS, voted for the same guy in the same numbers.

Why would any clear thinking jew vote just like a muslim??

[ILS21R]

For the record, President Bush did not get my vote. I voted for John Kerry because that's what my personal take on issues and priorities led me to do.

Let it be known that Mr. McWhorter is for gay marriage and partial birth abortion.

[CasearianDaoist]

No, blacks need to vote as individuals and not as a racial block.

[LDub]

"Does our voting pattern really represent the diversity among us in experiences, aspirations, values? Do we really want to give in to allowing racism to define us?

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>I used to be on a messageboard where the resounding response will be YES or a bunch of longwinded responses that boiled down to YES.

Because today, if we do -- if we vote as victims rather than as individuals -- we only perpetuate our victimhood. We become the Democrats' mascots, instead of a force to be grappled with.

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>It amazes me how the majority of my campus voted for Kerry. I probably would have too if I hadn't discovered FR in July :-(. I mean, they didn't even try to just share info on the candidates. We had a bulletin board set up for the candidates: Kerry good, Bush bad! It was pathetic. And it was so obvious that a good bit of them were only thinking that way b/c of what's been told to them. Which is why I relished when we won and they were all down like they lost a family member.

I would say that blacks are already the mascot.. More like Old Faithful.

[TheForceOfOne]

All I would ask American blacks to do is to really look at each party and decide which party really does suit your desires as a race and as Americans like the rest of us also do or should do. Voting for a party just because that is what is done does a disservice to all of us. I don't mind opposite points of view in political terms but I can't stand when any of us vote without reason. I do not believe the Democratic Party fills this need and has take Blacks for granted and that is a shame. I know that Black home ownership is at an all time high. If I remember Bill Cosby correctly he said don't buy the high priced sneakers instead strive to own the company. I think it is time for people to stop leading Blacks down the wrong road to happiness and teach them why our political beliefs would serve their best interests. I would like to see us FReepers create a positive list of these reasons we could present to a respectable Black leadership. I am not sure but the Latino population will pass or has already passed the Black population as the largest minority in America. The Latinos are making this choice. I am afraid that the Black population already being taken for granted and still loyal to the Democratic Party will be left out in the cold once they no longer serve the political poker chip they once did. I am afraid this will only lead to more anger and resentment so at least give us an honest chance to welcome you to the party.

[kipita]

Here's a test,

Ask a conservative white American if he/she believes black America can turn things around within 10 years.

Next, ask the same question to a black American.

I think the response will be optimism vs. Cosby.

[BibChr]

For the record, President Bush did not get my vote. I voted for John Kerry because that's what my personal take on issues and priorities led me to do

...sending the rest of his argument and, as far as I'm concerned, his credibility, to Hell.

If HE couldn't figure out the issues in THIS election, and shake off the Donk-chains... well, he has no argument. "Other people should ____ — which I, though having every reason to do so, did not do." Buzz off, idiot.

Not that I have an opinion.

Dan

[McGavin999]

I'm not buying that there were only 2% more black voters. Sorry, I just don't buy it.

[robertpaulsen]

The correct time to publish this article is 4 months before a Presidential election, not four years before the next one.

I truly doubt the author's sincerity.

[JLAGRAYFOX]

At the moment American Blacks are about as dead as one can get when it comes to political power. They have none. In today's reality, the Black Congressional Caucus is just a club for social gathering of Blacks in congress. That is the bad news. The good news is that there are growing numbers of young, pro-active, intelligent Black leaders that see the handwriting on the wall, and in good numbers they are beginning to speak out openly about the crying need for Blacks to alter their voting patterns dramatically. Case in point was a prolonged presentation on C-Span yesterday concerning Black voting patterns. Every American Black voter should view it. What is clearly outlined is that the NAACP is no longer an effective organization for advancing Black causes. I sincerely hope the Black community turns to, wakes up, gets real and moves forward into the mainstream of American life and politics. Otherwise, they will remain as they are, chained as the economic slaves of the Democrat Party, with not an ounce of real political power at all!!!

[PhilipFreneau]

>> Blacks Need to Become a Swing Vote

This will not happen until they overcome the spell of those Uncle Toms named Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

[FrankR]

This is one of those subjects that is like the "Miranda rights"...anything you say can, and will, be held against you.

With all the talk about Republicans being "racists", it occurs to me that the very ones making this broad, stereotypical observation, are the very ones who look as blacks only as a "voting bloc", and nothing else. In fact, the left has looked at blacks as "votes" only for so long, they fail to see the individual.

Ddemocrats have done a spectacular job of instilling fear and hatred into people of color, and convincing them that everyone, other than democrats are racists, that the "school of fish" syndrome has taken over...one turns, they all turn.

But, did John Kerry give a damn about blacks BEFORE he needed their votes? No. All those trips to black churches for campaign support (Gee, whatever happened to their precious 'Separation of Church and State'?). I think those churches should lose their tax-exempt status if they are going to be used as democratic meeting halls.

Why doesn't that INSULT blacks?

Isn't that sort of like a woman marrying a man just for his money? Well, like the song says, "When your money's gone, your honey's gone". What has any of these white democrats done for blacks other than court their votes near election times?

Of the last three Republican Presidents, I don't remember any of them cutting out any Civil Rights, entitlement programs, or anything. George W. has more minorities in his Administration than clinton ever did.

Looking at the facts, it's obvious that "group-think" trumps individual and independent thinking. Sure, there is power in numbers, just ask the last lemming that goes over the cliff.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"Soon Latinos will outnumber blacks."

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According to the 2000 Census, Latinos already outnumber blacks. Perhaps the author meant that soon Latino voters will outnumber black voters, but I think that will take a while.