[EDINVA]

is a Democrat, other than Evan Bayh, acknowledging that Democrats are contemptuous of middle-America values?

[gr8eman]

This guy gets it. let's hope the leftys tag him as a right wing kook!

[anniegetyourgun]

The Left, contemptuous of voter-held values and desire for national security? Now, wherever did they get that idea.....

Here's the million-dollar question for you libs - how are you going to rid yourself of your building and consuming contempt.....short of a campaign of deception or exorcism? Since you love to hate America and Americans, we know you won't do the latter. That leaves you one choice - to lie about your REAL agenda. Now there's a strategy that'll work.....but only if the American electorate is a dumb as you think we are.

[bowzer313]

Here we are a week after the election and I'm already sick and tired of an MSM driven recurring theme, "What went wrong with the Democrats and what can we do to save them?"

I say, this is all bulls**t! We all KNOW what is wrong with the Democrats, and I, for one, am tired of hearing about ways to help these recalcitrant and irredeemable Marxists "correct" themselves. In my opinion, let's all just consign them to the ash-heap of history, for the good of this country and its posterity!

[etcetera]

I don't think the Dems get it yet. They have to drive out the anti-war, pro-gay, anti-religion groups to...Ralph Nader (?).

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

To escape that box again, and break the Republican's red-state electoral lock, we must adapt to the temperature of the times. That does not mean pandering or selling out our core principles, but rather meeting people where they are and leading them to our side, with resonant arguments and relevant ideas.

Blah blah blah. In other words, OUR side is still wrong.

And that we should follow the example of Martin Luther King Jr. in harnessing the values of faith to advance progressive (read: socialist/communist) causes, from civil rights (read: affirmative action, abortion, gay marriage) to environmental protection. (read: loss of property rights, no more oil exploration)

More doublespeak.

It means declaring our independence from the sclerotic influence of progress-blocking interest groups like the teachers unions.

That's pretty much the only sensible thing he said.

[Popman]

Will the democrats start to understand that kook left wing of the party is going to be their demise.

I think there will be a democratic party split along the same lines as the Reform Party / GOP split in the late 80's early 90's. We conservatives had several major issues to flesh out and see which ideology will win the day. This election was the result of a unified party that put it's kooks in their place and won big.

The democrats will go though the same type process, to rid the party of the left wing kooks will take time.

I think you will see a Al Gore / Dean ticket in 2008 to run against Hillary / Patsy in the primaries.

[aspiring.hillbilly]

The best thing that could happen is the demonrats are totally destroyed, like the whigs in the 1800's. Russia is far ahead of us in that their communists were consigned to the dustbin of history. The USA is still plagued with our home grown equivalent to the commies, the USA will have a glorious future with out the scourge of the demoncraps to drag us down,,,!

[Kay Syrah]

I love post mortems when it is the other side's mort that we're posting. The dems problem is that they have become mindless reactionaries. The landscape has shifted beneath them and they are still holding on to old, failed ideas, that they keep trying to apply to modern realities.

IOW, the ideas that built the dem party's appeal over the course of the 20th century, that a government has a responsibility to improve the lives of its citizens, (how this debate has been lost by the right is another rant) really have lost their resonance because they keep applying the sledgehammer to the mosquito. They have not only lost touch with any sense of perspective, they have no credibility when they try it on. They are just not believed because, well, they lie. Ex. count every vote, but disenfranchise the military.

So while they look at Clinton as an example of one of their's that had broad appeal, and could be elected and reelected, they forget that while he was a brilliant politician, at the end of the day he only stood for himself. Most people have a sense of that, if not actually articulated.

They simply have strained all their rhetorical cred to the breaking point, and sound hysterical, unsteady, and without balance. Right now, they are such a grab bag of special interests, they can't make a sensible argument without alienating one or more of them. And they have no legacy representative that has a biography of love of country and support for its ideals.( well, Zell and Lieberman excepted) But of course those guys have no broad appeal in the party.

It will be a while before they figure it out and actually deal with all their problems rather than just try to slick their image. Cause, well, they lie.

[McGavin999]

Yep, the only way you can ever win, is to transform yourselves........into republican. That's what he's saying. And if you can't transform, you can con the people into believing you are (like Clinton) until some national tragedy comes along. Just look at how often Bill Clinton turned his head, and the national attention, away from terrorism while the enemy built up strength.

People are going to have a long memory about that.

The democrats problem is their constituants. How are they going to keep all the freaks quiet? How are they going to hide the hatred for America?

[Inwoodian]

"...the destructive dance of denial the party has been engaged in since Bill Clinton left office"

Change "Bill Clinton" to "JFK".

[wayoverontheright]

In essence, we've fallen right back into the elitist, weak-kneed, brain-dead trap from which Bill Clinton liberated the party.

Huh?

Bill Clinton swindled the voting public into thinking he was something he was not. A centrist my butt.

If we hadn't had a Republican dominated congress he would have succeeded in completely neutering the military, nationalized medicine, passed reparations for slavery, he would have increased income redistribution even more through taxes, and turned this country into France.

He perpetrated a ruse through his rhetoric, and his actions, thwarted attempts almost all of them, were those of someone who hated America, and the capitalist system.

Kerry had to obscure who he was too, he just wasn't as good at it, largely because most people realized they had been snookered by Clinton, IMHO.

[benjaminjjones]

More Muscle, More God, Less Shrcotum LOL

[petertare]

..and here comes the newly packaged bible thumpin, bib overall wearing NRA life member Nascar nazi cookie baking Hitlery....to a lamestream network near you!