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34 years later, he saw the eyes of rescuer [NC Vietnam POW, SC rescuer reunite]
The Daily Courier [Forest City, Rutherford County, NC] ^ | 11/10/04 | JEAN GORDON

Posted on 11/10/2004 8:36:17 PM PST by conelrad

SPINDALE -- Warren Messer weighed 80 pounds, and had turned blue. His knees were crushed and his feet and fingers were broken.

He was struggling to hang on to life in the hell of a Cambodian prisoner-of-war camp during the Vietnam War, when he saw the eyes of the man who would save his life.

He never forgot those eyes.

Messer was on assignment in Cambodia doing reconnaissance missions for the U.S. Marine Corps when he was captured.

Ronnie Scroggs, an Air Force medic and Rutherford County native, lifted Messer from the hells of the Cambodian POW camp on July 25, 1970.

It was Messer's birthday.

Of course, no one knew that at the time. Messer had been so brutalized that he couldn't tell anyone, including his savior, "Doc Roc" Scroggs.

In fact, Scroggs expected him to die.

During the rescue efforts, Scroggs' captain even suggested a mercy killing. Scroggs disagreed.

"He was laying on the ground ... I saw something in his eyes," a tearful Scroggs said, recalling the day he saw Messer in the POW prison.

Scroggs and two other POWs he rescued, spent three days trekking through the jungle to carry the wounded Messer, hidden in a bamboo cage, to a helicopter where he was flown away for medical care.

Who would have ever thought that 34 years later, Messer would see those compassionate eyes again.

Just over a month ago, fate and an alert Veterans Services Office official intervened.

Messer, 57, who lives in Gaffney, S.C., often traveled to Spindale for counseling at the Veterans Service Office. He is a victim of post-traumatic stress disorder.

Scroggs, 56, also visits the Spindale veterans office on a regular basis where he meets with Veterans Services Officer Marie Champion to talk about his benefits, the motorcycle club, the war, or just to spend time with friends.

Neither was aware they lived 30 miles apart.

Scroggs hadn't thought much about Messer in the three decades since he last saw him. "When I last saw him, I left him for dead," Scroggs said.

Of course, no one knew that at the time. Messer had been so brutalized that he couldn't tell anyone, including his savior, "Doc Roc" Scroggs.

In fact, Scroggs expected him to die.

During the rescue efforts, Scroggs' captain even suggested a mercy killing. Scroggs disagreed.

"He was laying on the ground ... I saw something in his eyes," a tearful Scroggs said, recalling the day he saw Messer in the POW prison.

Scroggs and two other POWs he rescued, spent three days trekking through the jungle to carry the wounded Messer, hidden in a bamboo cage, to a helicopter where he was flown away for medical care.

Who would have ever thought that 34 years later, Messer would see those compassionate eyes again.

Just over a month ago, fate and an alert Veterans Services Office official intervened.

Messer, 57, who lives in Gaffney, S.C., often traveled to Spindale for counseling at the Veterans Service Office. He is a victim of post-traumatic stress disorder.

Scroggs, 56, also visits the Spindale veterans office on a regular basis where he meets with Veterans Services Officer Marie Champion to talk about his benefits, the motorcycle club, the war, or just to spend time with friends.

Neither was aware they lived 30 miles apart.

Scroggs hadn't thought much about Messer in the three decades since he last saw him. "When I last saw him, I left him for dead," Scroggs said.

She put the two stories together and although she didn't have a clue if it was Scroggs who rescued Messer, she arranged for Messer to be at the office at the time Scroggs was there.

"We met right here in this hall," Messer said with his arms around Scroggs.

"It was those eyes again. As soon as I saw those eyes. We hugged and we cried and cried for a long time," Messer said.

"The chances of us seeing each other again was astronomical," Messer continued.

"For about 35 years we've blocked a lot of this out. We don't talk about it too much. It's too hard. I have been depressed," Messer said.

Messer recalled how he was a U.S. Marine doing reconnaissance missions during the Vietnam War. It was on assignment in Cambodia that he was captured on Oct. 3, 1968, after being shot four times.

His feet were broken, his ankles broken, all his fingers were broken, his knees were crushed.

That day in 1970, when Scroggs helped to rescue three soldiers from the POW Camp, he never expected Messer to recover.

"Now this has really brought us closure," Messer said.

"Yes, there is closure now," Scroggs added.

Although it took him more than a year to recover from the physical wounds of his first reconnaissance mission, Messer later returned to Vietnam to another tour of duty.

Messer is still in the Marine Corps where he serves as a member of the Marine Corps League, Shelby, as a member of the Foothills Detachment. "I'll stay in the Marine Corps 'til they pull the flag across me," he said.

Scroggs didn't make the Air Force a career, instead, returning to Rutherford County and building a career with the Rutherford County EMS.

"We fully support each other," Scroggs said.

"He's my brother," Messer said.

"We are doing the best we can. One day at a time," Messer said.

Since their reunion, the two men have talked, visited and have ridden motorcycles together. They are members of the Vietnam Veterans Motorcycle Club, a club organized to find POWs and MIAs.

Accompanying Messer and Scroggs to Spindale last week were two other Vietnam Vets, Gray Wolf of Marion and Trumpet Mike of Cleveland County, who are also committed to finding the prisoners of war and the people missing in action.

"We are not just another wild motorcycle club, not at all we want our people brought back to us, and they are out there," Messer added.

Messer received 17 Purple Hearts and by the end of the year is expected to receive a Congressional Medal of Honor award.

Contact Gordon via e-mail at jeang@blueridge.net


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: americasfinest; heros
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Tomorrow is Veterans Day.
1 posted on 11/10/2004 8:36:17 PM PST by conelrad
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To: conelrad

Incredible.


2 posted on 11/10/2004 8:38:52 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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Sorry, the POW is from SC and his rescuer from NC.


3 posted on 11/10/2004 8:39:06 PM PST by conelrad
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To: conelrad

These are the heroes, and they don't showboat liek Lurch does.

They did it.

That Messer did another tour after all he'd been through is just awe inspiring. Thank the Lord we have these type of guys in this Country-- we have many in Fallujah right now.

How did we get so lucky as a nation? God Bless them.


4 posted on 11/10/2004 8:44:22 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: conelrad

This story would have been almost unbearable to read if things would have turned out differently last week.


5 posted on 11/10/2004 8:44:47 PM PST by Freemyland
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To: conelrad
wow...........I'm speechless!!! Thank you for posting this!!
6 posted on 11/10/2004 8:47:48 PM PST by Zacs Mom ("In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Jefferson)
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To: faithincowboys
That Messer did another tour after all he'd been through is just awe inspiring.

You know, the first time I read that, I had to go over and read it again. Then, I looked through the article thinking "naw, that must have been the rescuer, not the POW." But it's true, this guy must have volunteered to go back. Something like that is too big to fit in my puny head. It's almost trivial to say "Where do we get men like this?"
7 posted on 11/10/2004 8:51:46 PM PST by conelrad
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To: conelrad

For real, the idea that Kerry was constantly thumping his chest over his 4 month tour is even more outrageous when I read something like this. I just wish the paper had included pictures of these two heroes.


8 posted on 11/10/2004 8:53:27 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Admin Moderator
Could you change the title?

I wrote NC Vietnam POW, SC rescuer reunite, but it should be

SC Vietnam POW, NC rescuer reunite

Thanks
9 posted on 11/10/2004 8:55:30 PM PST by conelrad
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To: conelrad; joanie-f; snopercod

Bump.


10 posted on 11/10/2004 8:57:56 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: conelrad


What a story. God Bless them. So many of us go about our everyday rush and never stop to think who made our freedom possible.
We lost brave young men yesterday in war. What a loss, and what a gift, to have these young men fight our fight.
Every one of us should send them as many prepaid phone cards as we can afford, and PRAY.
Especially during the Holidays.


11 posted on 11/10/2004 8:58:04 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: Constitution Day; TaxRelief; Helms

NC list ping. I think the AP picked this up and it got in the N&O online today.


12 posted on 11/10/2004 9:00:12 PM PST by Mike Fieschko ("A ‘q’ should always be followed by a ‘u’. I don’t make the rules, Iraq, but I will enforce them.")
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To: faithincowboys

17 REAL Purple Hearts. Not high-speed rice imbedded in his ass either.


13 posted on 11/10/2004 9:01:48 PM PST by Glock17
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To: Glock17

Exactly. Screw Lurch.


14 posted on 11/10/2004 9:03:14 PM PST by faithincowboys (led, but not us,)
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To: conelrad
All I can say is God bless you Messer. For you to go through what you did and then return for another tour . "Is above and beyond the call/ My hat is off to you and yours.
And for you and you rescuer to be from NC with in 30 miles of each other is something that was ment to be.
I spent 20 yrs in the Marine Corps and it's Marines like you that can make us proud to have served.
SEMPER FI
Ed Kraemer
Gy Sgt USMC Ret.
15 posted on 11/10/2004 9:05:04 PM PST by flyharrier1254
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To: Darksheare

ping


16 posted on 11/10/2004 9:17:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Liberals Are INTOLERANT!)
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To: faithincowboys
For real, the idea that Kerry was constantly thumping his chest over his 4 month tour...

And the despicable @#$%! had the nerve to have a documentary made about it after he vilified real heroes who are still suffering the effects of their sacrifice!
17 posted on 11/10/2004 9:19:44 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit

It is nothing short of extraordinary. Make no mistake, Nam cost him the election.


18 posted on 11/10/2004 9:23:44 PM PST by faithincowboys (led, but not us,)
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To: conelrad

Wow! Thank God we have men like this in our country and our military. I'm in tears. And to think this man went back for another tour after what he had been through. I'm in awe, would like to meet him myself. God Bless him and all our vets.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 9:23:52 PM PST by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr...The man on my POW bracelet)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub

Ping


20 posted on 11/10/2004 9:27:57 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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