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Owens pushes tobacco bailout
Colorado Springs Gazette ^ | November.10,2004 | KYLE HENLEY

Posted on 11/10/2004 11:48:22 AM PST by Reagan Man

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1 posted on 11/10/2004 11:48:22 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

Think how much more money they would have had if they had just raised taxes on cigarettes instead of letting trial lawyers sue and take a 1/3 of the cut...


2 posted on 11/10/2004 11:50:40 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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Well, once they've used up all the tobacco shakedown money, they can always sue Big Fat.

Too bad they let themselves be painted into a corner by Big Educrats.

3 posted on 11/10/2004 11:54:43 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Reagan Man; SheLion; Just another Joe; lockjaw02; annyokie; CSM; Conspiracy Guy; metesky; ...
It’s the second time Owens has proposed hawking payments from tobacco companies — about $100 million a year to defray the cost of treating smoking-related illness — for a one-time payment of $800 million to $900 million.

Get over it Owens this is NOT and never has been tobacco company money..........the companies were permitted by the settlement to raise the price of cigarettes to cover the payments to the states.

This is a tax on smokers and only smokers.

4 posted on 11/10/2004 11:55:11 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SheLion

Ping.


5 posted on 11/10/2004 11:55:29 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: 2banana

To pay for the settlement the price of a pack of cigarettes was raised by 45cents......that money is NOT coming from the companies, but from smokers.

As usual government theives are balancing the budget on the backs of less than 1/4 of the taxpayers.


6 posted on 11/10/2004 11:57:36 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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*sigh* Tell this to all on here who think Owens should run for Pres next time around.


7 posted on 11/10/2004 11:59:13 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: annyokie

I don't care if they try to go foro the one-time payment.

My gripe is the folklore (lie) that the settlement money is coming from the industry. And it is continually perpetuated by people who should know better.


8 posted on 11/10/2004 12:02:30 PM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Gabz

We are going through the same deal here in Oklahoma were the foolish passed a 80 cents a pack tax. Thank God the Tribes that run all the Smoke Shops are contesting it.

A one-time payment I could live with, as well. Balancing the budget (as if) on the backs of smokers is wrong. We can't even get federal monies to get our cruddy roads fixed.
The counties all have wildly different tax bases mainly to pay for road construction.


9 posted on 11/10/2004 12:06:27 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Gabz

You are missing the point. The state will receive the money from the tobacco companies regardless of how those companies generate the revenues. Owens is asking the legislature to re-allocate where those revenues are spent.


10 posted on 11/10/2004 12:06:51 PM PST by BoomerBob
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To: annyokie

Virginia increased cig taxes this year for the first time in who knows how long, for, you guessed it............to balance the budget.

Folks from Maryland still cross the line to buy here, because it's still cheaper.....but still.


11 posted on 11/10/2004 12:09:06 PM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Gabz

We have the same cross-over affect here with the foolish liquor laws. Since our town is some fifteen miles from the Missouri state line one can buy booze (gasp! Even on election days and Sundays!) for nearly 20% less in another state. The mooks in the legislature can't seem to grasp the concept that they are outsourcing all the revenue to another state!

As an added bonus: Missouri chills it's beer and Oklahoma does not.


12 posted on 11/10/2004 12:16:48 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Madame Dufarge; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Gabz; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; ...

Thanks for the ping, Madame Dufarge. Let me read this.


13 posted on 11/10/2004 12:18:27 PM PST by SheLion (President Bush received MORE votes ever in the period of History. The Rats need to get over it.)
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To: 2banana
Think how much more money they would have had if they had just raised taxes on cigarettes instead of letting trial lawyers sue and take a 1/3 of the cut...

Oh sure. Let the SMOKERS carry the weight of state budgets on our backs. It sure is easy for the anti/non-smokers to dump the load on smokers. We are TIRED of it!

14 posted on 11/10/2004 12:20:40 PM PST by SheLion (President Bush received MORE votes ever in the period of History. The Rats need to get over it.)
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To: Just another Joe; Great Dane; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; ...

Think how much more money they would have had if they had just raised taxes on cigarettes instead of letting trial lawyers sue and take a 1/3 of the cut...


2 posted on 11/10/2004 2:50:40 PM EST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)

Can anyone believe this chit?

15 posted on 11/10/2004 12:22:06 PM PST by SheLion (President Bush received MORE votes ever in the period of History. The Rats need to get over it.)
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Oh sure. Let the SMOKERS carry the weight of state budgets on our backs. It sure is easy for the anti/non-smokers to dump the load on smokers. We are TIRED of it!

So, put it to a vote. You'll still lose.

The brutal choice is: pay more or quit.

I like wine, and will not quit drinking it, but I have to pay the taxes on it to enjoy it.

16 posted on 11/10/2004 12:26:29 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: annyokie
*sigh* Tell this to all on here who think Owens should run for Pres next time around.

Between this and the marital rumors I have gotten over Owens and am now supporting, if he'll run, Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty.

17 posted on 11/10/2004 12:28:38 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Don't blame me, I volunteered for Toomey)
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To: dubyaismypresident; All

Owens has lost my support. It is either Sanford or Pawlenty..


18 posted on 11/10/2004 12:31:31 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I like Frank Keating. He's rested and ready.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 12:32:32 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: KevinDavis
Bill Owens can go Clinton himself.

Pawlenty/Sanford 2008.

20 posted on 11/10/2004 12:32:41 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Don't blame me, I volunteered for Toomey)
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