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To: Protagoras
"The headline is misleading. These are not "public" places. They are private property in many cases. I don't know if Scotland has ever been strong on property rights."

I added the additional title descriptor about the ban applying to public places because that's the way it's referred to in the body of the article. Even though a given venue may be privately owned, they are nevertheless regarded as public places when they are open to public ACCESS. It's the same here in the US...privately ownned bars and restaurants are regarded as 'public places'.

That being said, I agree with your sentiment that this is an infringement upon rights, both those of the property owners as well as that of the patrons. The property rights angle is one of the ways that smoking bans are being fought here in the US.

42 posted on 11/10/2004 12:41:35 PM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat
It's the same here in the US...privately ownned bars and restaurants are regarded as 'public places'.

It's wrong here as well.

43 posted on 11/10/2004 12:51:55 PM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Stoat
they ARE public in that you don't need to be a member for admitance like in the VFW, American Legion, Elks, Moose, Eagles, Playboy... anybody old enough can walk in and get served and in that sense they are public houses.
at least that's the way it was explained to me way back when.
44 posted on 11/10/2004 1:02:23 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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