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SCOTLAND BANS SMOKING (Nationwide ban in all enclosed public places)
Sky News ^ | November 10, 2004

Posted on 11/10/2004 10:55:55 AM PST by Stoat

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SCOTLAND BANS SMOKING
Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in Scotland under legislation to be launched before Christmas, the First Minister said today.   

Jack McConnell told the Scottish Parliament the legislation would have a target date of spring 2006 for full implementation.

Licensees or employers who fail to enforce the law in their premises will face fines of up to £2,500 - and those who persistently flout the law will face the ultimate sanction of having their licence withdrawn. 

However, the proposals face a rough ride. Publicans have vowed to "fight tooth and nail" against it, backed by polls which show the vast majority of Scots do not favour a total ban. 

The Scottish Licensed Trade Association warns that the move could trigger job losses.

Individuals who smoke in enclosed public areas will face fixed penalty notices with a maximum fine of up to £1,000 for persistent offenders.

Environmental health and local licensing standards officers will be responsible for enforcement.

Private clubs will not be exempt from the ban.

The decision to go for a ban was taken by Scottish ministers at a Cabinet meeting  but was not disclosed until Mr McConnell's statement to MSPs.

He told Parliament that poor diet, excessive drinking, lack of exercise and drug abuse all made Scotland one of the unhealthiest nations in Europe.

"Too many people smoke, and too many people die or fall ill from cancer, stroke and heart disease," he said.

"The single largest cause of preventable premature death in Scotland is smoking."

He detailed the consultation process that the Executive launched on ways to curb the toll of 13,000 smoking-related deaths a year.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ban; healthnazis; nannystate; pufflist; scotland; smoking; smokingban; smokingbans
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1 posted on 11/10/2004 10:55:56 AM PST by Stoat
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To: bullseye876

Laura Miller, a politician here in Dallas banned smoking in Dallas because she was tired of smelling smoke in resteraunts, and our economy in the areas where smoking was banned plummeted because the smokers went elsewhere.

Politicians need to think about the negatives in regards to implementing laws such as these. Ridiculous.


3 posted on 11/10/2004 10:59:50 AM PST by blakep
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To: Stoat

Scotland's tobacco companies stock, if they have any, will plummit.


4 posted on 11/10/2004 11:00:04 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: SheLion; Gabz

Puff ping!


5 posted on 11/10/2004 11:00:10 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Stoat
If it's going to happen in Scotland, I doubt England will be far behind.

I don't smoke myself, but people who want to should be able to in dedicated areas of a pub!

6 posted on 11/10/2004 11:02:11 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: Stoat

"Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in Scotland"

"Private clubs will not be exempt from the ban."


It seems that in Scotland Private clubs are public places. This is double plus ungood.


7 posted on 11/10/2004 11:05:14 AM PST by Grit (Nov. 2nd, 2004: Get out the Vote! Nov. 3rd, 2004 : Get out the Gloat!)
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To: Gabz

Ping


8 posted on 11/10/2004 11:06:03 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Stoat

What part of private property do these people not understand?


9 posted on 11/10/2004 11:06:21 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Stoat
Private clubs will not be exempt from the ban.

Obviously, this is not even about protecting the air for non-smokers. They are simply trying to force everyone to quit.

10 posted on 11/10/2004 11:07:34 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: annyokie

Thanks for the heads up!!!!!


11 posted on 11/10/2004 11:07:45 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: blakep
.....and our economy in the areas where smoking was banned plummeted because the smokers went elsewhere.

Don't you know that is just tobacco industry propaganda?? I mean, everyone knows that non-smokers will flock to places without smoking and business will BOOM...........afetr all that want the ban-addicts keep telling us, and they would nevr lie, would they? (/sarcasm)

12 posted on 11/10/2004 11:09:53 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Grit

That is the disconnect that never ceases to amaze me.


13 posted on 11/10/2004 11:10:50 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Gabz

You're welcome!


14 posted on 11/10/2004 11:10:50 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Fiddlstix

Thanks, FRiend!!!!


15 posted on 11/10/2004 11:11:21 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: annyokie

The good news is that it looks like those impacted by it are going to fight back........unlike in other places. I wish them luck.


16 posted on 11/10/2004 11:12:24 AM PST by Gabz (4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Gabz

You're welcome


17 posted on 11/10/2004 11:12:55 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Stoat
If it's not Scottish...

18 posted on 11/10/2004 11:13:33 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: Stoat

Quick, somebody page Arlen Specter!! Scottish Law, Scottish Law!!!


19 posted on 11/10/2004 11:14:25 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Stoat

Having visited any number of smoke-filled Scottish Pub's this past September (From Thurso to Edinbugh) I can tell you that Mr. Jack McConnell is in for one hell of a fight
with his crusade to make the lives of stubborn Scot's better . .. For thier own good of course.


20 posted on 11/10/2004 11:14:43 AM PST by Pompah (The price of greatness is responsibility)
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