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To: Chena
My goodness, when you put it that way, it could make someone who bases their opinions on extreme comparisons inclined to believe that all Muslims are evil, and no better than Satanists.

Are you saying that muslims are better than satanists, even the 'moderates'? Please explain your logic 'cause now it sounds like you're saying that some religions ARE better than others. ;-)

And they clean this entire, large facility for free? Wow, what a deal! Wish I could find some Muslims who would like to rent my house once a month. LOL So they really did clean it yet again after just one Christian woman breached their clean zone? Sheesh, if that is true, that's anal, but probably not "evil". My mom taught me that a little soap and water never hurt anyone. LOL

Check this part out Chena: They don't clean it with soap and water. No amount of scrubbing would work.

They bring in large rolls of paper. They lay the paper down over the entire facility so that they won't have to touch the place. Then they say prayers over it.

The poor woman merely opened the door and stepped inside onto the paper. That was it. They had to wad up all the paper and start all over. I thought it was pretty darned anal myself. LOL

I was not attempting to compare White Supremists to people who are racist against all Muslims.

This is where we are disconnecting. The FReepers you refer to are not racist against muslims. Muslim is not a race. It is the teachings of their 'prophet' and his books. That's the problem.

Thank you for your posts. I know this can be an emotional subject for all of us.

Ditto.

293 posted on 11/13/2004 9:03:36 AM PST by houeto
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To: houeto

"Are you saying that muslims are better than satanists, even the 'moderates'? Please explain your logic 'cause now it sounds like you're saying that some religions ARE better than others. ;-)"

Well, I suppose I am saying that Muslims are better than Satanists, although that wasn't a turn in the conversation I was trying to take. I would think that a religion who worships Satan would be worse than a religion that worships God.

"The poor woman merely opened the door and stepped inside onto the paper. That was it. They had to wad up all the paper and start all over. I thought it was pretty darned anal myself. LOL"

Sheesh! Convert a Muslim, save a tree! LOL

"This is where we are disconnecting. The FReepers you refer to are not racist against muslims. Muslim is not a race. It is the teachings of their 'prophet' and his books. That's the problem."

You are absolutely right. I hesitated to use the word, "racist", but alas, went on ahead and did so because I just couldn't think of another term at the moment. Good catch. teehee Perhaps a more appropriate word would have been "bigot" (a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices). Yea, I looked up the definition so I wouldn't make the same mistake again. :) I, myself, prefer to not choose a mindset that could be defined by either of those terms.

It can be agreed that some of the teachings in the Quran are horrifying. That being said, I have heard what appear to be intelligent people of the Muslim faith on television who have explained that your average, normal Joe Muslim, does NOT agree with those teachings. The extremists do.

They explain it in the same way I've had to explain to our sons as they grew up that not every word in the Bible is to be taken literally. You probably know this scene...those conversations with young people who can point to the worst possible examples in the Bible that would make us all seem either evil, or incredibly gullible for believing such things.

Perhaps by now you understand more accurately what my opinions are and we can agree to disagree. Unless you'd like to change your mind? LOL

Fact: We are at war with Islamic extremists who use the worst phrases in the Quran to justify their evil acts.
Fact: Not ALL Muslims are extremists.
Fact: The majority of Muslims within our own borders, and many abroad, wish to live in peace and harmony with the rest of us.
Fact: We have some Muslim extremists in our own country who wish to attack us along with their terrorist cohorts from abroad.
Fact: We must be diligent, and hunt down those that plot to murder us all.
Fact: For those of us who are Christians, it is imperative that we continue to "live" what we preach. Hating or wishing ill upon an entire group of people because of the actions of some, goes against what God's Word teaches us.
Fact: It is not helpful to create enemies by hating, and disrespecting our friends (Moderate Muslims).

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294 posted on 11/13/2004 12:03:08 PM PST by Chena (wise words: "what is it, in your life, that if it were to change, others would say, He lives!")
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