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To: houeto

"Are you saying that muslims are better than satanists, even the 'moderates'? Please explain your logic 'cause now it sounds like you're saying that some religions ARE better than others. ;-)"

Well, I suppose I am saying that Muslims are better than Satanists, although that wasn't a turn in the conversation I was trying to take. I would think that a religion who worships Satan would be worse than a religion that worships God.

"The poor woman merely opened the door and stepped inside onto the paper. That was it. They had to wad up all the paper and start all over. I thought it was pretty darned anal myself. LOL"

Sheesh! Convert a Muslim, save a tree! LOL

"This is where we are disconnecting. The FReepers you refer to are not racist against muslims. Muslim is not a race. It is the teachings of their 'prophet' and his books. That's the problem."

You are absolutely right. I hesitated to use the word, "racist", but alas, went on ahead and did so because I just couldn't think of another term at the moment. Good catch. teehee Perhaps a more appropriate word would have been "bigot" (a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices). Yea, I looked up the definition so I wouldn't make the same mistake again. :) I, myself, prefer to not choose a mindset that could be defined by either of those terms.

It can be agreed that some of the teachings in the Quran are horrifying. That being said, I have heard what appear to be intelligent people of the Muslim faith on television who have explained that your average, normal Joe Muslim, does NOT agree with those teachings. The extremists do.

They explain it in the same way I've had to explain to our sons as they grew up that not every word in the Bible is to be taken literally. You probably know this scene...those conversations with young people who can point to the worst possible examples in the Bible that would make us all seem either evil, or incredibly gullible for believing such things.

Perhaps by now you understand more accurately what my opinions are and we can agree to disagree. Unless you'd like to change your mind? LOL

Fact: We are at war with Islamic extremists who use the worst phrases in the Quran to justify their evil acts.
Fact: Not ALL Muslims are extremists.
Fact: The majority of Muslims within our own borders, and many abroad, wish to live in peace and harmony with the rest of us.
Fact: We have some Muslim extremists in our own country who wish to attack us along with their terrorist cohorts from abroad.
Fact: We must be diligent, and hunt down those that plot to murder us all.
Fact: For those of us who are Christians, it is imperative that we continue to "live" what we preach. Hating or wishing ill upon an entire group of people because of the actions of some, goes against what God's Word teaches us.
Fact: It is not helpful to create enemies by hating, and disrespecting our friends (Moderate Muslims).

backatcha (*,*)
















294 posted on 11/13/2004 12:03:08 PM PST by Chena (wise words: "what is it, in your life, that if it were to change, others would say, He lives!")
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To: Chena
backatcha (*,*)

Okiedoke...here goes

I would think that a religion who worships Satan would be worse than a religion that worships God.

First off, if you were able to pull back the veil from the deity that the moon rock worshippers bow to, do you think that you would see Christ? Not a chance. Then WHO is it they bow to? I think that when the veil gets pulled back, (and it will) they will be shocked. (and you too)

That being said, I have heard what appear to be intelligent people of the Muslim faith on television who have explained that your average, normal Joe Muslim, does NOT agree with those teachings.

Yea, and that is about the teetotal extent of their protest of these actions. Don't you think that there are a lot of words missing here?

They explain it in the same way I've had to explain to our sons as they grew up that not every word in the Bible is to be taken literally. You probably know this scene...those conversations with young people who can point to the worst possible examples in the Bible that would make us all seem either evil, or incredibly gullible for believing such things.

It is being proven over and over that there is much more venom against 'infidels' being spewn in mosques in America and around the world than we would liked to have believed.

Unless you'd like to change your mind? LOL

ROFLOL! Even though it's really no laughing matter, sadly, it will be the muslims themselves that will eventually change yours.

Fact: We are at war with Islamic extremists who use the worst phrases in the Quran to justify their evil acts. Fact: Not ALL Muslims are extremists. Fact: The majority of Muslims within our own borders, and many abroad, wish to live in peace and harmony with the rest of us. Fact: We have some Muslim extremists in our own country who wish to attack us along with their terrorist cohorts from abroad. Fact: We must be diligent, and hunt down those that plot to murder us all. Fact: For those of us who are Christians, it is imperative that we continue to "live" what we preach. Hating or wishing ill upon an entire group of people because of the actions of some, goes against what God's Word teaches us. Fact: It is not helpful to create enemies by hating, and disrespecting our friends (Moderate Muslims).

I'm not going to debate each of your 'facts' right now but only because I don't have time. Nevertheless, take extreme caution in your choice of words when stating facts. Some of these you have made easy. lol. I'll be waiting with bated breath.

295 posted on 11/14/2004 1:42:20 PM PST by houeto
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