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The killing of Theo van Gogh and the aftermath - Report by a Dutch guy

Posted on 11/10/2004 2:52:53 AM PST by teezle

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To: teezle
I know the Muslims are invading nice countries like Sweden and Denmark as well. Another story, I traveled to Eastern Canada in Summer of 2003 and I did a stop in Northern Toronto area. I traveled on Yonge Street between the 407 and the 401 and that neighborhood changed quite a bit especially the are just North of the 401. The previous time I was there was back in 1991 on vacation. At that time, it seemed like a safe neighborhood and I did not have any problem parking a nice car there. In 2003, the neighborhood went to shit. A lot of the store fronts had Arabic writing and there was quite a bit of trash on the sidewalks and street. I remembered a good Korean Restaurant - Dr. Kim's but I couldn't find it this time. Even though Toronto is known for being a safe city, I would not walk down that part of Yonge Street or park a nice car there today.

It is apparent especially since 9/11/2001 that Islam is bad especially the Sharia (Islamic law) and how it treats non-Islamic people as second class citizens and God help you if you are a Christian !
161 posted on 11/10/2004 6:44:14 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: teezle

Yes, the yardstick for immigration ought to be table manners. Any culture which eats with their bare hands off the floor should be banned. We only want quality people.

:-) What about chopsticks?

Nice jab, Teezle! I enjoy your sense of humor!


162 posted on 11/10/2004 6:45:42 AM PST by mrpipesmkr
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To: hellinahandcart

True. I suppose I didn't get it right because I am still on my last nerve with people who insult my president for being stupid, simple, etc.


163 posted on 11/10/2004 6:46:46 AM PST by technochick99 (Sanctimonious prig..., selfish hedonist)
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To: teezle
His letter said something like: Here I am, drowned in blood... Paradise bla bla bla. He forgot that Dutch police just want to arrest you and not kill you. Now Theo van Gogh is a martyr and he banging his head against the wall in prison...

Yeah, that'll show him. I suppose he will be out in 4 or 5 years for good behavior?

164 posted on 11/10/2004 6:47:03 AM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: teezle

There was an article posted here yesterday about 2 pali suicide bombers turning themselves in for FEAR OF THEIR FAMILIES HOUSE DEMOLISHED.


165 posted on 11/10/2004 6:48:40 AM PST by Luigi Vasellini
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To: teezle

Somebody please send a few copies of 'Camp of the Saints' to Holland.


166 posted on 11/10/2004 6:51:10 AM PST by Crawdad (Take a camera to the polls.)
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To: teezle

The bottom line - the Jihadist want to kill every non muslim on the planet. We should be ready.


167 posted on 11/10/2004 6:51:22 AM PST by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: teezle

Never did I say the Dutch are to be suicidal. Sorry, I'm an Orthodox Christian and to us suicide, self murder, is eternal damnation. I admonish you to fight for your homeland and not to run, not to become a copy of the Islamics.


168 posted on 11/10/2004 6:51:55 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: technochick99
I suppose I could chalk it up to a translation problem.

But the Euros would be falling all over themselves trying to establish the literal meaning, the range of possible meanings, the context and subtext of any political statement uttered in, oh, say, ARABIC---so screw 'em.

They deliberately live in error and want that error respected as an equally valid viewpoint with the truth.

169 posted on 11/10/2004 6:52:34 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: teezle; Wormwood; A. Pole
In memory of Mr. Theo Van Gogh: A joke about a married Dutch girl to a Moroccan immigrant....

A Moroccan immigrant stumbles across an old lamp while he was at the mosque.

Figuring his luck has to change, he rubs the lamp and "poof" out pops a genie. The genie explains to him that he gets three wishes, and whatever he wishes for, his wife gets double.

The Moroccan immigrant explains the situation with his wife and the goat, and then asks for his first wish. "The first thing I want is a million dollars."

The genie says, "Okay, but you know that your wife gets two million."

The Moroccan immigrant said, "That's okay. My second wish is for a large house on a remote tropical paradise."

The genie says, "Then your wife will have two beautiful houses."

The Moroccan immigrant replied, "That's fine. Now for my third wish. I want you to beat me half to death."

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Teezle, het welkom en dankt u.

Gelieve te bezoeken:

This is just the beginning.
Is Holland Next?

Teezle, if you were in charge of Holland what immigration policies would you promote?

And finally if you need any type of support with this matter, don't hesitate on asking me.

Help is on the way.

170 posted on 11/10/2004 6:55:07 AM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: thingumbob
According to one article I read 800,000 muslims out of 16 million in The Netherlands and they estimate between 3-5% of the muslims are radical.

Do you know what the estimate is in America? I've never seen a number.

171 posted on 11/10/2004 6:56:29 AM PST by houeto
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To: A. Pole; FormerLib

The REAL PROBLEM is that the Netherlands is effete, "post-Christian", and gay and feminist saturated. The Dutch are not reproducing themselves, and the influx of muslims is replacing the Dutch demographically. A clash between "tolerant" Dutch and radical islamoNazi savages was inevitable!!!!

The Dutch problem is also shared by their Western European neighbors, especially the super-decadent entity known as Belgium, the headquarters of both the EU and NATO. All these countries and organizations have sucked up to the islamists by persecuting the Serbs, hoping to secure their oil supplies and to avoid a clash with islamoNazism. Even the Blue State elitists in our own country have been doing the same. However, that is a LOSING GAME from the beginning!!!!

The Dutch need to STOP IMMIGRATION now, and find excuses for deporting as many islamic immigrants as possible. They need to re-convert to Christianity, which is now a physical ans well as a spiritual necessity, and to embrace their Serbian Christian brothers and sisters instead of persecuting them. And they need to adopt pro-natalist policies that will ensure the continuation of future generations of Dutch people!


172 posted on 11/10/2004 6:59:17 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Whew!)
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To: teezle

Thank you so much for the informative post, teezle.


173 posted on 11/10/2004 7:00:17 AM PST by betty boop
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To: laconic
All of these locales are plagued by angry young Muslims

If ALL of your women were denied ANY sexual pleasure EVER in their lives, you'd be angry too. Weird ain't it?

174 posted on 11/10/2004 7:00:23 AM PST by houeto
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To: teezle

Thanks for posting your observations on this site and being a pair of eyes and ears "on-the-ground" for the FReeper community.


175 posted on 11/10/2004 7:00:28 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: teezle
Dutch people who do that are certainly most intolerant. There were White Power signs on the Uden school so that should say enough. No, the US did not cause people to react that way. The problem is very complex and if Bush is representative for Americans, Americans do not like complexity.

What we (conservatives) don't like is spinelessness, equivocation, and moral relativism. That in a nutshell is how we view the "complexity" that holds Europeans in its thrall.

It is the Dutch who are discovering the virtue of taking simple, straightforward moral stands. Unfortunately, in a moral sense their legs and spines have become atrophied from disuse so much over time they are too wobbly on their feet to stand more than a few brief moments at a time.

BTW, why weren't van Gogh's films and statements critical of Islam prosecuted under Dutch hate crime laws? Don't get me wrong. I believe hate crime laws are an abomination, an evil attempt to coerce thought. But I find it amusing that a country such as The Netherlands that would strictly censure a Christian who declared publicly that homosexuality is a vile disorder of the soul and body would blithely wink at van Gogh's suggestions that Muslims are subhuman goatf***ers.

176 posted on 11/10/2004 7:01:12 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: A. Pole; FormerLib

By the way, the clueless (and Serbophobic) feminazi editorial page editor of my Blue State local paper wrote an editorial yesterday condemning Dutch "violence" against muslims, and urging "tolerance".

This is yet another instance that shows that the Blue Staters and Kerry supporters just don't get it!!!!


177 posted on 11/10/2004 7:04:22 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Whew!)
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To: teezle
My dad (votes Greens) is now pleading for expelling every extremist in the Netherlands.

The radical that killed van Gogh was a formerly "moderate" muslim. You have 16 million muslims in the NL, any of them can transform into radicals at any time. Your father needs to understand that all of them must go.

178 posted on 11/10/2004 7:04:46 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: teezle

At the same time, Europe needs to stop rationalizing the irrational hatred that possesses Islamic terrorists. Islamic terror is not the result of some "failed integration policy" or of some real or imagined Muslim grievance supposedly caused by U.S. Middle East policy. It is fueled by a totalitarian ideology that seeks world domination and the subjugation of infidels and the West. The sooner Europe comes to terms with this truth the sooner it will begin to combat the fanaticism that claimed the life of Mr. van Gogh.

The Van Gogh Murder
November 10, 2004; Page A16

http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB110004023978469379,00.html


179 posted on 11/10/2004 7:08:29 AM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Honorary Serb
The Dutch problem is also shared by their Western European neighbors, especially the super-decadent entity known as Belgium, the headquarters of both the EU and NATO.

In Brussels the capital of Belgium and EU the most popular name for the newborn boys is Mohammad, the second is Osama.

180 posted on 11/10/2004 7:11:23 AM PST by A. Pole (Milosevic: "When they start beheading your people then you will know what this is all about !")
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