Posted on 11/09/2004 3:41:00 PM PST by Ahriman
Thanks for your explanation of the biology of conception.
As for "egg" versus "ovum", my American Heritage dictionary makes them synonyms. Why do you prefer ovum?
Basic textbooks prefer ovum ... do you eat eggs for breakfast or in omelets? Humans are not chickens and chickens can lay 'unfertilized eggs' don'tchaknow.
OK, but why? How does "ovum" differ from "egg".
Think about it: egg can be the hard-shelled thing you use at breakfast and in cakes and pancakes, the thing a chicken produces AFTER a chicken ovum is fertilized by chicken spermatazoon. The gestational period of a chicken is so very different from that of a human being, but in subtle ways that require basic understanding of the chemistries and physical developments to fully explain. Perhaps that's why some have chosen to obfuscate the truth of human life from conception to birth by injecting the confusing, intentionally inaccurate terminology?
Uh, you forgot your sarcasm tag, there.
B. S. Have you had an abortion?
Sad that adoption doesn't exist anymore.
Of course it is. Even when I was pro-choice, I knew that.
If you favor abortion, you are pro murder, and if you want to give me a death threat, have at it.
And if you have the balls, bring it on.
BTTT
An interesting idea. Perhaps abortion advocates introduced the use of "egg" as a synonym for "ovum" to help advance their cause. I don't know.
Getting back to my question though: What charge would you bring against against the intentional killer of a human zygote (substituting "zygote" for the "fertilized egg" you objected to).?
Interesting article being posted on FR; it talks about how in television, when the woman "chooses" to keep the baby, it is no longer referred to as a fetus... but a baby.
Hmmmmmm very interesting.
Oh, I'll just post it:
RE: HOLLYWOOD & ABORTION
NROTC ^ | 11/12/04 | Jonah Goldberg
Posted on 11/12/2004 2:24:56 PM PST by swilhelm73
Meghan's piece is really good, but she leaves out a whole other area: TV's treatment of abortion. I always think it's somewhat hilarious on shows like Friends and going back through countless others to Murphy Brown when the single pregnant woman anguishes about whether she's going to keep her baby. I don't mean to say that such pretend anguish doesn't capture a certain reality, and a very sad one. But at the end of the day -- or often at the end of sweeps week -- the woman always says "it's my choice, I'm keeping the baby." Or, they'll have a scene where the woman gets a sonogram and she realizes she loves the baby and again she'll say "it's my choice. I'm having this baby."
And, the moment the women decide to have the baby, the fetus is automatically discussed as if it were a complete person worth talking to, reading to, singing to etc. The implication here, of course, is that if Rachel or whoever had simply chosen not to have the baby, that choice and that choice alone would have been enough of an abracadabra to metaphysically transform the fetus into nothing more than a lump of cells or the inconvenient consequence of a one-night-stand not worth reading to at all.
But -- and here's the funny part -- they never choose the abortion. It's so unbelievably predictable in show after show. Unless there's a miscarriage, the woman always "chooses" to have the baby and that choice makes the fetus into a baby. The ontological status of the baby itself has nothing to do with it. Of course, one reason this is so is that abortions are a major bummer, particularly for a sitcom. And another is that pro-abortion groups are placated by these meager nods to choice, while prolife groups would scream bloody murder if a family hour show treated abortion like an opportunity for whacky hijinx. Still, I'm sure the producers and scriptwriters have struggled with this for a long time and if they could come up with a way to write about getting an abortion as an uplifting experience or even an uncontroversial decision they would have by now. But they can't even on eat-your-spinach liberal shows like "Judging Amy" or "Boston Public." And I think that alone says something.
Jonah's mom ran me off of her wesite/discussion board because I was constantly spelling things out in matter-of-fact terms. Even Lucianne didn't want the topic discussed openly for fear of alienating certain folks.
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