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Islamic school set ablaze in Netherlands
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | November 9, 2004 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 11/09/2004 3:17:04 PM PST by thierrya

Tuesday, November 9, 2004 · Last updated 3:11 p.m. PT

Islamic school set ablaze in Netherlands

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

THE HAGUE, Netherlands -- Suspected arsonists set an Islamic elementary school on fire Tuesday amid a string of attacks following the killing of a Dutch filmmaker by an alleged Islamic extremist.

Firefighters struggled to extinguish the flames at the burning Bedir school in the southern town of Uden, where someone had scrawled "Theo Rest in Peace" in the building in homage to slain filmmaker Theo van Gogh, but the building was destroyed in the blaze.

Uden Mayor Joke Kersten told Dutch television she didn't know the exact cause of the fire but suspected arson. She said the school had not been the target of prior attacks.

Arsonists attempted to burn down Protestant churches in Rotterdam, Utrecht and Amersfoort in apparent retaliation for the bombing of a Muslim elementary school in Eindhoven on Monday, police said.

Muslim sites have been the target of a half-dozen attacks in the past week. No injuries have been reported and no arrests have been made.

Tensions have been high in the Netherlands in the week since the murder of Van Gogh, who was shot and stabbed in Amsterdam by an alleged Islamic radical after making a movie critical of Islam. A funeral was held for Van Gogh on Tuesday.

In Utrecht, police arrived Tuesday to find that a church window had been smashed and a container of flammable liquid thrown inside. In Amersfoort, several Molotov cocktails were thrown at the outside wall of a church.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: europe; holland; islam; islamic; islamofascists; jihad; koranimals; netherlands; purgetheland; terror; theovangogh
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To: teezle
Welcome to the Forum.I think it is good to have A voice from Europe, even A dissenting one. My point about the sanctions is that for years your part of the world has voted for sanctions against Israel, completely failing to understand the type of fanatics Israel has to deal with. When innocent Israelis die it appears to mean nothing to you. Now you have an example of Muslim tolerance at your doorstep. You chastise the US for freeing the people of Iraq and in so doing promote the idea that it is OK for A tyrant to invade his neighbors, torture and kill his own people and use WMD's against the Kurds. You believe that leaving the swamp of the Mideast alone to breed ever more fanatics is the kindest option. I believe it is far kinder for the majority of all people of all faiths to rid the world of these beasts and their breeding grounds.
81 posted on 11/09/2004 5:02:30 PM PST by mrpipesmkr
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To: Snapple
Of course, now I can barely carry my briefcase up the stairs at my school.

Maybe you should do some wind sprints.

82 posted on 11/09/2004 5:02:45 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: teezle
Turkey is an exception, rather than the rule... the result of an iron fist rule by the Kemalists and considered apostate bidahis by the majority of the Muslims. I spent a lot of time on jihadists forums before the heat got so great they dissipated or got shut down. I'm been pretending to be one of them, and traded a lot of emails with several budding shaheeds, and one, a Muslim in England who was of Pakistani decent wrote at lenghts of a trip he made to Turkey and how he could not believe hoe "so called Muslims" acted and posted severla comments on a very popular Islamic "mainstream" Islamic forum and the replies were supportive of this view. He's on several other Islamic forums, and has toned down his public image due to the heat, but not in private. And before you tell me about bad apples n all and, I lived in a couple of Islamic countries (as an Expat, which is why I have learned their lingo and culture and can pass for one online) as a Dhimmi and know full well that not ALL Muslims are evil.... many have Islam claim them, but they have no interest in it. ISLAM however, is a murderous intolerant hatefilled ideology that I can only compare to Fascism. Defend it if you want. I will not.
83 posted on 11/09/2004 5:07:29 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Does this look like we're "Killin' all the muslims" in Iraq?

Error on my account! I did not mean Bush was killing all Muslims. I meant Bush is killing Muslims, not all. I am honestly sorry. Saying that was in a reaction on people calling for the killing of all Muslims. For the record. I am most grateful for the sacrifice of Americans so that we Europeans can live the wat we live at the moment. However, I don't think invading Iraq will have the same effect as invading The Third Reich from Hitler. That was restoring Europe the way it was. There were already democracies that could take over the job as soon as Europe was freed.
84 posted on 11/09/2004 5:08:21 PM PST by teezle
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To: smcmike

There is that NAZI-type Christian Identity Movement.

There are some very extreme people who claim to be Christians. We don't condemn all Christians because of them.

Muslims are criticizing the extremists. But this is sometimes dangerous.

I think we really need to go after the terrorists. And I think that democracy will be a healthy thing for countries in the ME. Many Muslim countries are democracies.


85 posted on 11/09/2004 5:08:43 PM PST by Snapple
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To: teezle
Still awaiting your explanation about the Bible,seems you're not as educated about Christian precepts, not surprising since you live in one of the most decadent country in Europe(which is saying a lot) where you condone and promote the use of illegal drugs and organized prostitution,why would you have a problem with abhorrent murder.
86 posted on 11/09/2004 5:09:30 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: bikepacker67; All

Arutz Sheva IsraelNationalNews.com printed my comment re the Islamic Prophecy (written with a certain amount of scarcasim, granted, but you might find it interesting:
http://www.israelnn.com/print.php3?what=article&id=3042


87 posted on 11/09/2004 5:10:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. See FRED NERKS for link)
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To: teezle

24 - "The arson of churches is accompanied by White Power signs thus commited by Racist pigs who use the murder of TvG for spreading hatred.

Interesting - and therefore you should mean the "Racist pigs" of Islam, who have blown up thousands and thousands of innocent Christians and churches and Jews all over the world are White Power "Racist pigs"?


88 posted on 11/09/2004 5:12:28 PM PST by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: teezle

Many Muslims already live in democracies. The Iraqis are very anxious to vote.

They need help to get an army and police so they can defend themselves from the Iraqi and foreign terrorists.

After the voting, the terrorists will lose a lot of credibility.

Saddam killed a huge number of his people and didn't have anything to show for it. I think that the way we are fighting that civilian casualities and deaths are minimized. It is the terrorists who are deliberately blowing up the poor Iraqi civilians.


89 posted on 11/09/2004 5:12:45 PM PST by Snapple
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To: bikepacker67

Every moderate Muslim organisation in the Netherlands is speaking out against the murder. They despise the fact Islam is used as the reason for the murder.

My friends (which I know for 20 years) originally from Turkey hate these extremists as much as you and I do.


90 posted on 11/09/2004 5:13:24 PM PST by teezle
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To: teezle
Teezle, sorry, no offence taken, and I do not mean to sound so abraisive... long day... tired. Very early start tomorrow too that I'm not looking forward to.

Please, even if you do not answer all my replies to you, read the links I posted in them. I'm sure it will open your eyes, and you'll see where many of us are coming from.

91 posted on 11/09/2004 5:13:57 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade.)
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To: teezle
Fair enough.

Looks like your picking up the HTML skills quite well.

92 posted on 11/09/2004 5:14:35 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen (#40)
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To: USF

I think most Muslims live in countries that are democracies. They aren't perfect democracies, but people vote, there are elections, some protections for human rights.


93 posted on 11/09/2004 5:16:44 PM PST by Snapple
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To: teezle
My friends (which I know for 20 years) originally from Turkey hate these extremists as much as you and I do.

Give your friend some good advice, and tell him to organize and VOCALIZE an opposition, before he gets caught in the inevitable crossfire.

94 posted on 11/09/2004 5:18:05 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: teezle
Every moderate Muslim organisation in the Netherlands is speaking out against the murder. They despise the fact Islam is used as the reason for the murder.

Then again, they would say that if they believe that it will lead to a backlash against all Muslims (and apparently has), and know they need to get their numbers up first... (and they would if the status quo remains as it is now)

95 posted on 11/09/2004 5:18:12 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade.)
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To: teezle

ARAB MEDIA FORCED OUT OF FALLUJAH FOR NOT COLLABORATING WITH TERRORISTS

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) issued a press statement on 3 November (http://www.centcom.mil) citing a report that appeared in the London-based "Al-Quds al-Arabi" reporting that militants have forced four Arabic-language media outlets out of Al-Fallujah in recent days. The press release states that Al-Arabiyah television, the Lebanese Broadcasting Company (LBC), Al-Iraqiyah television, and Middle East Broadcasting Company were forced to leave Al-Fallujah by militants who claimed the media outlets' coverage was biased in favor of multinational forces. The news outlets had reportedly refused to air stock footage provided by the militants who depicted alleged civilian casualties. Reporters from Al-Arabiyah and MBC told coalition officials that correspondents in the city were threatened and said some correspondents had left the city for safety reasons.


96 posted on 11/09/2004 5:22:13 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
I visited Amsterdam many years ago as a student. We went to Ann Frank's house. WE all read her diary in school, so that was really neat to see.

Cool. I am ashamed to admit that I haven't visited the AF House... even though I live in Utrecht (half an hour train ride). I visited NY though! In 2000 so I was priviliged to mount the WTC. I must say that almost every European (despite their criticism about US policy) love America and I am planning a coast to coast road trip through America next summer. Thanks for the URL! I will add it to my fav next to BBC, CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, NYT. I am quite a news junkie. I know that I don't have to look at FR for the average US opinion but the Dutch media are slightly biased in their reporting about America I must admit.
97 posted on 11/09/2004 5:23:54 PM PST by teezle
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To: Snapple

The moderates are probably afraid to speak out against
the extremists in fear of their own lives. Sort of like
the ordinary Germans were afraid of the Nazis.


98 posted on 11/09/2004 5:24:31 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: teezle

52 - Teezle, you may be surprised about FRee Republic. We probably have more people on this forum who know more about the Muslim religion than most Muslims, and particularly on like you, who is probably Indonesian-Dutch, and probably never lived under the Muslim yoke.

Do a FR search, and you will find many long discussions of the Koran, and dozens/hundreds of quotes to support our positions over the past few years.


99 posted on 11/09/2004 5:24:42 PM PST by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: bikepacker67

SPEAKING UP IS DANGEROUS

Last week, unknown militants gunned down Iraqi broadcaster Liqa Abd al-Razzaq and three of her companions in a Baghdad taxi, according to media reports. Abd al-Razzaq was well-known to Iraqis as the broadcaster for Al-Sharqiyah television's "Sahafah" (Press) program and as a newsreader, Al-Sharqiyah reported. She previously worked for the Iraqi state-run media under the Hussein regime as a broadcaster with domestic Iraqi television and with the Iraqi Satellite Channel. Abd al-Razzaq was reportedly also under contract with U.S.-supported Al-Iraqiyah television. Militants gunned down Abd al-Razzaq's husband two months ago for reportedly working with the U.S. military. Abd al-Razzaq left behind a newborn daughter and six-year-old son.


100 posted on 11/09/2004 5:25:51 PM PST by Snapple
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